sergiojl
17 posts
Jul 17, 2011
3:42 PM
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Why this harmonica have not been a best selling item?
I don't understand why being an original marine band with screws and sealed comb, this harmonica is hard to see out there, and people prefers to buy the original and seal the comb and put it screws later.
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jim
922 posts
Jul 17, 2011
3:52 PM
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because it has the same problems as the unsealed one. The comb swells and cracks later.
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sergiojl
18 posts
Jul 17, 2011
4:26 PM
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So the real name had to be "almost deluxe".
Jim I know you're a seydel lover.
How damn good seydel's 1847 is? I want to try it but is three times more expensive than regular harmonicas.
Last Edited by on Jul 17, 2011 4:27 PM
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jim
923 posts
Jul 17, 2011
4:38 PM
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For me, 1847 has several advantages:
- stable tuning
- reliable
- no drilling, etc. needed before customising
- it has pretty consistent tuning out of the box.
- awesome wooden comb.
I once hit a reed with a metal tool. It bent and went into the slot. I straightened it and it still plays well.
Though, like any other harmonica, it requires customising out of the box. If you want to get the most out of it.
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groyster1
1184 posts
Jul 17, 2011
4:55 PM
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if you buy the crossover you get a bamboo comb that does not swell or suzuki manji with composite comb that does not swell
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Seven.Oh.Three.
115 posts
Jul 17, 2011
5:59 PM
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The real problem with a Deluxe is the price. If I remember correctly the prices looks something like this: MB standard-$32.50, MB Deluxe-$55.50 and MB Crossover-$59.50.
If I was tired (or didn't want to) of sealing combs and drilling holes and was going to buy a MB that had this done already, why wouldn't I fork over four more dollars and get a crossover? Plus the Deluxe isn't even a fully sealed comb. So, for $23 I get screws and opened cover plates? No thanks. I'd buy the crossover ten out of ten times.
I like to tinker with shit so I keep buying standard Marine Bands and do my thing.
The only reason I own a few Deluxes is because I got them at the same cost as the standard.
7.o.3.
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Joe_L
1360 posts
Jul 17, 2011
7:28 PM
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I like the Marine Band Deluxe. Haven't had a harp comb swell in 30 years.
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Miles Dewar
1010 posts
Jul 17, 2011
8:31 PM
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Because $50+ for a Marine Band is a waste.
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Fingers
65 posts
Jul 18, 2011
2:09 AM
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@ Sergiojl, i have recently bought an 1847! and a few soloist pro's!! best harps i have ever used.
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HarpNinja
1511 posts
Jul 18, 2011
5:40 AM
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Has anyone had problems with the combs? Even if not sealing them?
Just over $20 extra for a MB with screws, open cover plates, and a more moisture resistant comb? Sounds like a very good deal.
Unless the key isn't made, I see no reason to get a regular MB. Even for a custom, the template is already there with the MBD. IMO, the tone with the open cover plates isn't different enough for me to say they don't sound like a regular MB.
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Andrew
1378 posts
Jul 18, 2011
6:33 AM
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It is a good question, and I've never been sure I could express what I think.
The main answer is the money - for an extra 50% cost you get improvements which are to some extent intangible. The comb is much nicer to look at than a MB comb.
But it's not reliably better OOTB - I've had an A, which is OK (I've certainly gapped it, possibly embossed it), and a Bb which was horrible (never responded to any treatment, so I threw it away).
The holes are wider and the tines narrower, so that you need a slightly different embouchure and more care when playing it. I find the slightly louder tone to be slightly less sweet than that of a standard MB.
I don't play them enough for the combs to swell, although, being an oboist, I probably also blow drier than a lot of other harpists.
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harpwrench
499 posts
Jul 18, 2011
7:32 AM
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MBD and Crossover according to Steve Baker are made and assembled in Germany, while MB 1896 is assembled in China (along with SP20 and GM), with German made parts. I'd guess that the labor costs differ. Maybe the German factory has higher-skilled people who care more? You'll have rogue harmonicas that fall above or below average quality, that's the nature of mass production.... but the average quality of the German assembled harps is better in my experience.
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Stevelegh
253 posts
Jul 18, 2011
8:09 AM
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I bought some MBD's from Tom Dikon, which he has on offer at the mo'. They are a pretty easy harp to gap and sound fine. If I was paying full price, I'd go with a Crossover.
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