Shredder
286 posts
Jul 13, 2011
7:59 PM
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Just wondering. I have a Morley A/B pedal. I have one line running to a dirty harp amp and the other one runs to a clean channel for the "pretty" songs. The mic is on a stand and not cupped. I want an acoustic effect with hand wahs. My question is what mic works best for you on stage. One that produces a nice full harmonica sound. I have issues with the highs coming thru just fine but the lower freQ. are not there. Please name the brand and type "condenser or dynamic, Shure, EV, to name a few.
I do use a MXL condenser on a stand when I play on stage in my acoustic duo. The sound is full and natural. When I'm with my Rock /Blues band the MXL condenser can't handle the stage noise. I've tryed SM 57, SM58, Beta 58 with no luck. I even tryed a Senhiser E609 that worked better but I had to stay to close to the mic and kept hitting it with my hand.
Suggestions Please>>>>>>>>
Mike
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jbone
573 posts
Jul 13, 2011
9:42 PM
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i usually have my usual cm or crystal mic and tube amp- big or smaller- and when needed i can blow into the vocal mic as well. it does take a careful touch to use a vocal mic without resetting the channel since my voice is just about 180 degrees different than a harp sound.
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LSC
37 posts
Jul 14, 2011
6:33 AM
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Surprised an SM58 doesn't work for you. It's worked for harmonica players around the world for decades.
You could try a Shure SM87 Beta, with a bit of judicial use of EQ. It's a phantom powered condenser with a more roundness and warmth in the lower mids and a bit more detail as you go up the frequency scale.
I used an SM58 for vocals forever until hearing the 87. First time I heard someone use it they swapped out a SM58 from my own PA so I knew that everything else in the chain was the same. I was stunned and had to have one.
They are not cheap, $269 or so as I recall. I found one on Ebay for $160 about three years ago and now take it with me even when a PA is supplied. I also play some acoustic harp through it both hand held and on a rack. Sounds great. Nearest thing to a studio mic I've heard in a live situation. I think Sennheiser may do something similar but I don't know the model number.
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LSC
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Tuckster
851 posts
Jul 14, 2011
11:46 AM
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You could try going straight into the PA for clean and not bother with 2 amps.You might need a monitor if you were depending on the amp for monitor.
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LSC
38 posts
Jul 14, 2011
4:13 PM
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Oops I missed he was putting both mics through an amp. I thought he couldn't find a mic to play through the PA. The 87 Beta is phantom powered and an amp is not going to have that facility. I agree, just do the clean thing through the PA.
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LSC
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Shredder
287 posts
Jul 15, 2011
11:59 AM
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@ LSC, I was using a clean amp and running to the PA. That worked but I'm trying to cut down on baggage. I have tried running straight to the PA with a clean mic and that's where the issue is. The PA is a BOSE L1 model 2 with a tone match engine. We have tried all different types of settings and we still can't get the full bodied sound I'm looking for. If I cup the mic the bottom end comes thru but in open air is is lost. We thought of a stage condenser but didn't know what kind worked. The Beta 58 we did try just didn't cut it to me. I'll try to find a Beta 87 and give it a try. Thanks for the advice.
Mike
Last Edited by on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 PM
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Greg Heumann
1180 posts
Jul 15, 2011
2:46 PM
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I play through a bullet mic and tube amp for my dirty sound, and through the Ultimate 58 that I sing through (stand mounted) for my acoustic tunes. I'm very happy with its tone.
Getting good tone from an acoustic mic is a skill unto itself. If fully cupped hands in front of the mic (i.e., you don't cup the mic itself) then SLIGHTLY open hand position is much richer than total free air, and hand position is absolutely critical.
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LSC
40 posts
Jul 15, 2011
4:16 PM
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I agree with Greg wholeheartedly. Hand position is critical not only in the cupping technique but distance from the mic to take into account proximity affect.
Personally I never liked the Bose system much partly because of it's lack of a mixer with any real versatility. Whatever mic you settle on you might consider getting a small mixer to go into the Bose. Tapco, the poor man's Mackie, makes an excellent little mixer for not much money at all and then of course there's Beringer.
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LSC
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