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harpdude61
861 posts
Jun 20, 2011
9:27 AM
Adam amd Jason have both said learn and copy, but to also try to be an innovater.

I have a few ideas I have been working on so I wanted to share one to see what you guys think.

Jason said in one of his classes at HCH that in 2nd positions blues ....if you go into first position on the IV chord that you need to repeat what you just did on the one chord...otherwise, play your 2nd position licks as most do. This stuck with me and explains why a lot of stuff I try does not sound right.

On the 2nd break that starts at :47, I do a 2/5 draw split that gives me the root(2 draw) and the flat 7th (5 draw). When I go to the IV chord at 1:04, I play a double stop...6 overblow and 7 blow which gives me the flat 7th and the root of the IV chord.

Sometimes it sounds better. I played it at a jam on Red House with my Double Trouble and it worked well, I think. It also works playing 1st position in one chord blues.

I'm not sure if I have heard this double stop before. Maybe I did and didn't know what it was.

Referring to another thread...I try the 6 draw leading to 6 ob at 1:21 and not sure about it either. I have not tried the 6 draw very much in 2nd position.

5F6H
739 posts
Jun 20, 2011
9:44 AM
When you do the 2/5 draw split it's the flat 7th that really dominates...I wouldn't worry about the 2 draw root.

i think that if you took Jason's advice & repeated what you did on the one chord, it would gel better. So after playing

1&4d 2&5B 1&4d 2&5d on the one chord why not repeat that riff in first with...

6b 6d 6b 6OB?
harpdude61
862 posts
Jun 20, 2011
11:41 AM
5f6h....I really didn't do the lead-in the same way on the IV like you suggest. My emphasis was on the the long notes. 2/5 draw dominating the I chord and the 6ob/7 blow dominating the IV.

My question ....is this a usable double stop or am I wasting time? Maybe the recording does not do justice, but if done correctly the double stop has a haunting effect.........or are the notes so close it sounds muddy.

Quite a difference in the sound of playing the root and flat 7 almost an octave apart versus only a step apart.

I agree that the flat 7 dominates, but after much debate and discussion on the forum I've started learning to tongue block. I'm not far enough along yet to add much more than a few splits.

Thanks for your response 5F6H...now you have got me wondering about doing splits on the IV chord leading into the double stop.
hvyj
1444 posts
Jun 20, 2011
3:28 PM
IMHO whatever you are playing at 1:05 and 1:24 sounds a little discordant in relation to the rest of what you are doing, and not particularly "bluesy." To my ear, everything else sounds pretty good.

This really doesn't have anything to do with what you are asking, but a very cool split in second position is the D3 D6 which gives you a third/ninth split (part of a 9th chord) on the I and it also works on the V (but I'm not sure why). FWIW.

Last Edited by on Jun 20, 2011 3:42 PM
harpdude61
865 posts
Jun 20, 2011
4:41 PM
Thanks hvyj... I have not tried to use the 3/6 draw split but I will.

Thats what I'm trying to figure out...am I using this unique double stop out of context or is it something not very useful? It was fun to learn anyway.
Diggsblues
831 posts
Jun 21, 2011
6:32 AM
I'll buy it. My ears like the tension.
In Jazz the dominant seventh chords can
have the kitchen sink played over them.
This comes down to what you want to create.
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