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boris_plotnikov
530 posts
May 05, 2011
12:25 AM
Bunch of music I listen and play is music based on standart grooves. There's not too much of them: swing (old time, modern), shuffle, funky even 16th, funky triplets, hip-hop (actually shuffle!), beat, rock, latin (mambo, cha-cha-cha, rhumba), brazil (samba, bossa-nova, frevo, partido alto, reverse alto) etc, look at Band-in-A-Box style list or any self-playing keyboard style list. There's actually formulas for any of them e.g. "kick on 1st beat, snare on 3rd, hihat on all of them, bass on 1-st and third". Of course any great skilled musician will choose best groove for song, improve it in some way and play it good. But it'll be still one of old grooves.

I always look for musicians who make they own groove completely different from all standart grooves.
E.g. genius of Antonio Carlos Jobim was he found his own groove and it becomes bossanova (of course plus some genius melodic and chord progressions), now bossa-nova is standart groove, available in any self playing casio keyboard. But it was actually original groove made from samba. There was actually no such music earlier, now it's standart. I'm not very interesting in modern bossanova players, but I admire that one.


Another genius Astor Piazzola always on top of the beat plus it always sounds like they will loose the beat, but it's always going on. . Completely different from trad. tango.


Another great example is drum'n'bass music, but actually I can't find who was first drum'n'bass DJ.

Or great breakbeat music. Prodigy. Hovewer it noticeably resembles standart triplet funk. But anyway they have their unique sound and groove.



I always look for modern musician who fond their own groove.
My favourite band now is Tequilajazzz, from Saint Petersburg, Russia.


another one


I'm looking for other modern bands who find their own groove. Not overcomplicated music like art-rock (King Crimson or Dream Theatre) or modern fusion (which actually usually use standart funky grooves!), not good playing of old groove, but some new one.
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Last Edited by on May 05, 2011 12:34 AM
orphan
23 posts
May 05, 2011
5:01 PM
Thanks Boris. Tequilajazzz is fun to listen to. Sometimes I get too far in my own box. What a nice light you just shed.
shanester
366 posts
May 05, 2011
9:04 PM
Very cool post, Boris, very inspiring! It reminds me of how Chris Michalek aka Buddha would post inspirational food for thought.

Thanks for your contributions to this forum and to the instrument. You do it with grace!

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boris_plotnikov
531 posts
May 06, 2011
12:19 AM
BTW, new blues groove was found by Tom Waits, pure genius

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