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MrVerylongusername
1669 posts
Apr 14, 2011
4:20 PM
OK, so I splashed out in the Bends sale and bought myself a big 64 chrom (unlike the slightly negative disappointed reactions I read from folks who bought Juke diatonics, this Tonica chrom has exceeded my expectations).

It's not my first chromatic, and I can do the 3rd position blues stuff reasonably well, but my long term goal is to play uptempo poppy Soul stuff like Stevie Wonder.

So I'm listening a lot to Stevie and I'm just wondering who is there who plays like that? - who else should I be listening to? Toots is wonderful, but it's soul I want, not jazz. Nothing wrong with jazz of course - just not the sound I want to play right now ;-)
MrVerylongusername
1670 posts
Apr 14, 2011
4:21 PM
Ooops - title should read PLAYS (although I'm sure a gig with Stevie would be a good payer!)
Rift
96 posts
Apr 14, 2011
4:37 PM
Check out some of Carlos del junco stuff. Not quite Stevie but it has a jazz feel.
Rick Shanks
33 posts
Apr 14, 2011
7:51 PM
Check out the great Chrom player Tollak Ollestad :)
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ol'bosey
52 posts
Apr 14, 2011
9:29 PM
Tollak:
Micha
181 posts
Apr 15, 2011
4:02 AM
OMG! This guy jumps almost immediately to the list of harmonica players I love! Thx for sharing!
Stevelegh
185 posts
Apr 15, 2011
4:46 AM
Bottom line is no one sounds like Stevie, aside from his imitators.

That said, his style is quite easy to understand but not always that easy to play. He plays a lot in '12th' position to put it in diatonic terms. He plays a lot in F# with the button pushed in on a C chrom for example. Other keys he employs are Dm (3rd position), and C (1st position). He's also been known to speed up recordings to facilitate his favoured positions.

Whilst all this sounds quite straightforward and at times it seems like he 'cheats' a bit, the best part of his playing is that thing you just can't put in a bottle. His musicality. For Once In My Life is a perfect example of this. Genius.

A good book on this is Jazz Harp by Richard Hunter.
MrVerylongusername
1672 posts
Apr 15, 2011
5:01 AM
That's helpful info.

Yeah - I'm working through Jazz Harp. I did wonder if 12th position came into his sound. It certainly has a very Stevie feel at the top end on the diatonic.
Stevelegh
186 posts
Apr 15, 2011
5:11 AM
Hi Mr V.

A good trick I very recently found which will help you bend your brain around to Stevie's chrom playing is playing Isn't She Lovely. You can play this in F on a standard C diatonic with the 6 OB, but if you flatten the 7 draw a'la Todd Parrot, you can play it really easily.

I think Stevie may have come up with the melody on harp in F, realised it was out of his vocal range and then woodshedded to learn it a semitone lower.

On the Stevie stuff, I've quite often found that relating it to diatonic harp and then transferring it to chrom kind of breaks the mystery for me. It is awesome stuff.

Last Edited by on Apr 15, 2011 5:12 AM
WinslowYerxa
9 posts
Apr 15, 2011
9:20 AM
Stevelegh -

You say Stevie plays a lot in F# (which is 7th position, not 12th). My evidence says that's not the case. Yes, he did it on "For Once in my Life" because the tune modulated up from F to give it some extra energy. But that's the only one I know of. Maybe there are more, and I'd love to know about them.

Chakha Khan's "I Feel For You" is one that he did play in 12th. The final track is in F#, but to play his solo he slowed the tape down and played in F. "Do I Do" comes out in B, but again, he slowed down the tape and played it in Bb. (I'd be curious about other examples of him changing the tape speed.)

Most of his early stuff is in C, using the slide-in draw notes to play blue notes in the C scale (Eb, Gb, Bb) and to play slide ornaments on those notes. Later he applied this button-jab/blue-note idea to G and then other keys.

Last Edited by on Apr 15, 2011 9:21 AM
Stevelegh
190 posts
Apr 15, 2011
10:42 AM
Hi Winslow,

As you know I'll always defer to you. Sorry, I'm probably mixing up my diatonic / chrom terminology and yes, I am wrong in the F# comment. Dunno why I said that.

On For Once in my life, it's a lot like playing in '12th', being F on a C, but with the button in making F#.

Let me retread the whole thing and re say what I was trying to get across.

His playing tends to lean on the keys that fit comfortably in keys like C (1st), Dm (3rd), F (12th) and by playing slide in and raising a semitone, which is all quite easy to get your head around if you've got your head around a diatonic. It all feels quite natural.

Incidentally, There Must Be An Angel by Eurythmics was in F as well as I Feel For You (recording was lowered 1 semitone from F# to play the solo.

Looking at Isn't She Lovely, That seems so obvious to be concieved in F, but relearned in the key of E to suit his vocal range.

Have I put this across correctly?

Thanks for calling me out on this. Bad comments on my part. Apologies.
kudzurunner
2442 posts
Apr 15, 2011
12:37 PM
William Galison has a little bit of Stevie in his playing, and he's said as much.

Here's "No More Blues," from his 1989 album, OVERJOYED. You can listen to the whole cut for free once. Give it a moment to load.

And make sure that you stick around for the final 60 seconds, where he really blows the roof off in his distinctively lyrical fashion.

http://www.tunes4u.org/Lyrics/2263731/William-Galison/Overjoyed/No-More-Blues-Chega-de-Saudade/download-mp3/

Last Edited by on Apr 15, 2011 12:41 PM
Diggsblues
749 posts
Apr 15, 2011
10:21 PM
When it comes to chromatic it's time to give up the
position concept. Time to learn keys and what the
notes are on the instrument.In the end you'll be glad you did. One secret try to learn the blues scales on the chromatic. Another secret sharp keys will let you
scoop a half step from below a lot melodies. There are more
secrets but the Chromatic police will get me if I give them away.
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bluzmn
11 posts
Apr 16, 2011
3:03 PM
Chris "Hammer" Smith does a pretty fair imitation; supposedly Stevie recommends him for session work when Stevie can't make it.
colman
44 posts
Apr 22, 2011
7:58 AM
whenever i hear chris michalek play i hear a lot of assimilation of steve wonder.


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