There are several stolen SBWII licks here. He makes it sound so simple but it's incredibly hard to get close to his style - any advice/tips/tricks on how to get this closer to his style greatly appreciated...
I agree with Todd and Dave ... especially that you should follow your own path going forward and see where your creativity leads ... too often we spend inordinate effort and time on our perceived weaknesses rather than enthusiastically pursuing our strengths ... look forward to hearing more ...
Cheers, guys - thanks for the feedback. As for copying other players, it's not that I want to imitate their style all the time; it's just that it forces me to learn stuff I can't play at the moment. I find if I don't try and imitate what I hear then I end up playing the same things over and over - I bore myself crazy with the same old licks! I agree with what you're saying though - don't copy at the expense of your own ideas.
Nice playing Jodan chudan,I saw this the other day but didnt get around to it,but it was worth the wait nice playing as always,man your getting good bends.What kind of harps do you use? ---------- Hobostubs
If you want to catch his vibe work on space, relaxed deliverly with an intense power behind it. Let the pace and natural rhythm of the universe guide you. He was tapped into this more than any other harp player IMO. I feel his spirit often when I play. It is not his licks, but his presence. This is an area that I only have heard the old blues guys talk about. Louisiana Red first shared this with me when I lived with him and then I have discussed this at lenght with many of the now deceased blues players (while they were alive :-) ). I have been tapping into this from day one when I started playing music but had no idea of the history of it. Today it is disected into mechanical steps- buy it in a box so to speak. That will never bring SBWII to your spirit. YOu may emulate the riffs but you will not learn that intensity behind them. He is from the old school that tapped into the multi generations of spirits that played on the musical highway of universe. Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
/He is from the old schoolthat tapped into the multi generations of spirits that played on the musical highway of time and space/
The depth of SBWII *rules* time and space. Well... My time and space, anyway!
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Forgot to say...
@jodanchudan:
Enjoyed that. Thank you. And... How do you engage with the way SBWII pushes and pulls the beat? His greatness is, IMO, in no small part due to the way he can bend time.
Walter - I totally agree with you about his presence and the fact that it definitley takes a lot more than just copying his licks. I've only just started to realise how extreme his dynamics are, and how his phrasing and timing are far more complicated than they sound at first. They sound like easy licks, but they definitely aren't (I think the same thing about SBWI - much harder than it sounds at first). I'm glad you mentioned his use of space too - unless I concentrate on space and dynamics I end up overplaying and playing at the same volume.
Jodanchudan I have a question I hope you dont mind me asking,Remmeber i told you about the Paypal trouble i had and had to drop David barrets school,cause of paypal,well I downloaded most the lessons,and they do work good with my other harp school I was paid up there for awhile so,screw paypal.anyways
I took a year working on walk with me recorded it twice,still practice it some but,been working last 6 months on temperatue,I have 4 chorus learned,but Im getting burned out some cause of the time Ive spent learning the chorus forms,So I was wanting to work on another study song for awhile,Im wanting to work on my Bends and also still continues chorus form study,I was looking at the song feeling the blues,and it sounds like the same song walk with me but with some bends,I also thought about the song CHE,What is your thoughts on this,Im really like how your getting some good bends on your stuff that honking sound,and looking for something to work on.I have all the beginer and intermediate lessons downloaded,any help would be greatly appreaciated,If paypal hadnt screwed me I still would be at David Barrets,I even had to close my bank acount,and they are the payment sorce for online everything. ---------- Hobostubs
jodanchudan: You are right. To become a world class player is about the small stuff and there is no quick way to get there. Most people never get there because other life interests take up the time. The old blues guys are something the young players should never forget. They summed it all up. Heck, look at the rock gods that worship them yet the blues guys knew very little musically. Notes, chords, riffs, are tangible things that most any good player can master/emulate others as is evidence the kazillion technically amazing players out there-both pro and amatuer. That isn't really music from where the old guys were coming from. The old guys were short on this stuff but monsters of the spiritual stuff I talked about. That is always there for those that are willing to blindly fall into it. Many players today, as in yesterday, go on a endless hunt for mastery of the classic riffs. These kinds of players are a dime a dozen- literally dozens in every town...... From my years around the blues greats, one tries to get these riffs but will ultimately be lured down that spiritual highway instead and a style unto yourself emerges without you even realizing it. Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
finding my own sound Is easy for me,Finding My own sound that sounds good is a bit harder;-)I try and take as many ideas and lessons I can and learn em note for note,cause even with doing that I cant sound like anybody else,And I would like to be able to at least if I wanted 2,But usuaually it kind of balances my unschooled ruffness,with something I can use hopefully,I understand what your saying Walter that its the best way,But it does take a long time to work though what works,I did that with the guitar,And after 20 years of playing,I sound like me,but there's people that take lessons or have a talent for learning quick that blows me away,in a couple years but I do sound like me m ost times,although Im not sure if thats good.Jodanchudan is really learning quick I love his harp skills and the guitar he plays as with yours Walter ---------- Hobostubs
Hobostubs: It is great you have your own sound. In time it will keep getting more depth. It is a lifetime thing that always is evolving. You are right, most everyone, myself included, starts out trying to capture someone elses riffs. Like I said, this can be a tunnel vision thing with no deviation, or if like me, you are after the spiritual thing and that leads you down roads of unknown that in time, makes you forget about copying others. I can easily come close to most of the classic harp players, but it is of no interest because it is their sound and when I am in the mood for that, I put on their records. I find it boring listening to others doing the greats songs to near perfection. Nothing creative, just a recreation of mechanical, tangible, concrete, sounds. Like putting a jigsaw puzzle together. All the pieces are already there and nothing unknow brought to the sound. Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
assimilate is what all the blues cats did,they were learning off each other.no reason for you to not assimilate your self.it`s a language and there are many dialects...
