The Iceman
2070 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:00 AM
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yup.
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The Iceman
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boris_plotnikov
1005 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:06 AM
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Answer
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Excuse my bad English.
My videos.
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Frank
5306 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:08 AM
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From what I've heard Larry you seem to sound...pedestrian, but in a good way :)
Maybe I haven't heard your best stuff?
Last Edited by Frank on Sep 17, 2014 10:08 AM
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Ted Burke
198 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:10 AM
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Yes, I consider myself a modern harp player.
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Diggsblues
1553 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:16 AM
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Modern and post Modern LOL
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The Iceman
2071 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:26 AM
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Frank...
maybe
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The Iceman
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JInx
889 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:32 AM
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You'll fiind my stuff on the "post primate neo pentatonic" shelf.
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Diggsblues
1555 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:42 AM
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When we say modern is it production, mics, soloing concepts, types of songs that are in blues bands today?
Today a blues band may play Ain't No Sunshine with a blues approach. Is it a blues approach applied to non-traditional blues tunes?
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harpdude61
2146 posts
Sep 17, 2014
10:48 AM
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Modern carries so many different meanings for different people. Talking about techniques used? Overblows, overdraws, bending those,blending into modern music??? I'd say most here are stuck in the 50 and 60s with LW and the boys. To be modern you gotta show me something no one has ever played or heard. Go mooncat!
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JustFuya
537 posts
Sep 17, 2014
11:11 AM
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No, I am not. I am old school and have only recently invested in my own equipment to get the sound I want on the harp. I have always rock & rolled on stage and plugged into other equipment. But my heart has always been blue.
Now I'm working on my voice and quit smoking toward that end. I can't see pulling off my blues harp without my own vocals.
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Diggsblues
1556 posts
Sep 17, 2014
11:27 AM
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@harpdude61 how about this.
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harpdude61
2148 posts
Sep 17, 2014
12:52 PM
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I like that a lot Emile...Loved Boris' too!
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CarlA
595 posts
Sep 17, 2014
1:03 PM
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I would consider myself more of a Baroque harmonica player. "Modern" harmonica is so passé!
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KingoBad
1537 posts
Sep 17, 2014
1:16 PM
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I think most people trying to make a living playing harmonica are Baroque...
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Danny
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STME58
1073 posts
Sep 17, 2014
1:16 PM
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It's easier to find a broke harmonica player than a Baroque harmonica player. The harmonica was invented after the Baroque period but broke goes way back! :-)
Broke musicians in the Baroque period may have a lot in common with the modern harmonica player.
edit; Kingobad beat me to the punch line!
Last Edited by STME58 on Sep 17, 2014 1:17 PM
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jnorem
559 posts
Sep 17, 2014
2:26 PM
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i think I'm a modern harmonica player, in that I can play the chromatic, read music and am well-versed in a number of musical styles. But, when I play blues on the diatonic I'd have to put myself into a more old-school category.
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Call me J
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Moon Cat
461 posts
Sep 17, 2014
2:31 PM
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GEAUX HARPDUDE!
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JJ Harper
11 posts
Sep 17, 2014
2:38 PM
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No, I am an archaic harp player. Paleo and proud of it.
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kudzurunner
4968 posts
Sep 17, 2014
3:40 PM
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I think I'm a transitional player. In attitude, and in terms of what I cheerlead for, I'm wholeheartedly in favor of updating, streamlining, trying new stuff, getting away from predictable and overstylized approaches (i.e., embroidering on the Walters and Sonny Boy). Since I use overblows, after a fashion, I'm naturally inclined to listen for them, and encourage them. You can call me an anti-traditionalism-ist, if you want. I'm not against tradition per se--in fact, I demand that those who would be modern know it and master it--but I'm against an approach that feels dated. The 50s Chicago sound sounds dated to me.
But I also like good basic harp, without pretenses, executed well. I love when Watermelon Slim gets up, with nothing but a harp in his hand, and bellows his blues, and blows harp. Same with Charlie Sayles. That will never feel dated.
At the same time--hey, I like harp boxing. Show me something new. THAT is show business, and I like show business. Surprise me. Don't let me feel that once I've heard your first song, I know every note you're going to play before you play it. You'd be surprised how often I have that experience.
Mitch Kashmar: you never know where he's taking it. That's why he's one of my favorite contemporary players.
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yonderwall
77 posts
Sep 17, 2014
4:20 PM
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Adam, it sounds like you should be considered a "transitional" player (rooted in tradition, yet clearly moving to modern).
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Diggsblues
1557 posts
Sep 17, 2014
4:29 PM
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I've been baroque a few times.
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MJ
741 posts
Sep 17, 2014
4:54 PM
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I am modern in that I am always changing and building upon my repertoire. I try not to be static. What type of player are you Frank? You always pose questions of others but never give straight answers about yourself.
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Frank
5309 posts
Sep 17, 2014
5:27 PM
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yup - you sure you don't have me mixed up with somebody else? Maybe you do:)):
Seriously though, I'm not interesting enough for people to care what I am or aren't, your the only one that is interested, I'm flattered too :)- but since your asking seems so sincere and innocent - I'll let you be the judge of what my music should be called :)
Franks Harp Boogie MasterPieces 85 Original Tunes
And please have at all the vids at The Famous "Centipide Saloon" to help make up your mind :)
The Centipide Saloon
Tip Your Waiter Please
Last Edited by Frank on Sep 17, 2014 6:01 PM
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CarlA
596 posts
Sep 17, 2014
6:42 PM
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I can't help but ask, who do you all think is the "1 UNDISPUTED MODERN HARP PLAYER"?
;)
Last Edited by CarlA on Sep 17, 2014 8:46 PM
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Frank
5311 posts
Sep 17, 2014
6:55 PM
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place my vote in the john popper line :)
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Ted Burke
202 posts
Sep 17, 2014
8:01 PM
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For the master of the universe stature in the modern harmonica world, I cast my vote for Howard Levy. I simply think there is nothing he can't play on the harmonica better than anyone else on the planet. Just my opinion.
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JustFuya
557 posts
Sep 17, 2014
9:34 PM
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Howard Levy is in a class of his own making. He has my total respect as a musician and, by golly, an innovator.
But I don't get a warm vibe from his music. Granted, I've never been in the same room with him much less shared a tune with him. So my opinion is weightless.
If I was to truly judge Levy as a blues player I don't think I ever can or will. As a virtuoso of the harp, I can't imagine better.
Last Edited by JustFuya on Sep 18, 2014 10:31 AM
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Frank
5312 posts
Sep 18, 2014
5:03 AM
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The Iceman
2073 posts
Sep 18, 2014
7:11 AM
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Howard Levy raised the bar for diatonic playing/technique.
I actually enjoy his early work most, as he wasn't so far out there with fast flurry of notes and shaped each one a little rounder. He did a children's record with other artists that is beautiful.
Having hung with him many times and also attending two of his legendary Augusta Heritage Advanced classes, I can attest to the fact that he does have a warm heart, but is very self involved and once removed from us normal humans.
I don't disrespect what he has done, but do agree that a lot of times I am left feeling cold after experiencing his playing on harmonica.
However, his piano playing is even better, IMO.
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The Iceman
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atty1chgo
1129 posts
Sep 18, 2014
7:18 AM
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I am not.
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MN
343 posts
Sep 18, 2014
7:39 AM
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Modern? Sometimes. Mainly when I'm playing with a band that drifts into blues-rock territory.
But mainly I consider myself a skilled accompanist, period. When I'm playing with a country band, I try to fit in that genre. When I'm playing with a straight-up, Chicago-style blues band, I try to fit that genre ... and so forth. I guess it'd be different if I were a band leader and called the shots.
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HarpNinja
3921 posts
Sep 18, 2014
8:00 AM
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Absolutely.
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Mike
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The Iceman
2074 posts
Sep 18, 2014
8:11 AM
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My modernity can be a problem at times, as I can't help myself.
Was the harmonica/keyboard player for Savannah's premier blues band of a few years ago - The Bluesaders. After about three months, they fired me because I was pushing the boundaries too much rather than play the same ol' same ol'.
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The Iceman
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CarlA
598 posts
Sep 18, 2014
8:52 AM
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Maybe it wasn't because you were pushing the boundaries-lol
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Frank
5314 posts
Sep 18, 2014
9:00 AM
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Believing what needs to be believed when the axe comes down can help the fragile egos of some musicians scab over a little quicker - let there be healing Carl, being fired can be shameful and sometimes excuses are helpful in times of painful recollection of the glory days :)
Bruce lamenting the boring stories of glory days :)
Last Edited by Frank on Sep 18, 2014 9:33 AM
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HarpNinja
3922 posts
Sep 18, 2014
9:45 AM
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I'd rather be a has been than a never was...
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1847
2179 posts
Sep 18, 2014
10:14 AM
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the boundaries are the one hole
and the ten hole.
everything else is well within the "boundaries"
maybe they just got sick of "those" notes?
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Pistolcat
696 posts
Sep 18, 2014
1:49 PM
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Boris is THE modern harmonica player! More modern than the moon cat even, imho. That said, my favourite harmonica song is 'Afro blue' from Jason's 'Done with the devil' album. Quite modern, too!
Here is my most modern playing... post LW but hardly new :/
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Pistolkatt - Pistolkatts youtube
Last Edited by Pistolcat on Sep 18, 2014 1:55 PM
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MJ
742 posts
Sep 18, 2014
11:33 PM
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Frank, thanks for the answer. I looked at your videos. Nice playing. After watching, I have decided that I would classify you as a lonesome player because you play all by yourself.
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Frank
5320 posts
Sep 19, 2014
4:02 AM
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Your welcome buddyboy, I knew you would love my music and become another fan, bless your heart :)
Here is a modern take on a tune that rips through the boundaries of art and science.
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kudzurunner
4973 posts
Sep 19, 2014
5:11 AM
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Frank, the last video you posted (the fart video) suggests that you're not a serious and committed harmonica player, but rather somebody who asks facetious questions as a way of drawing the membership of this forum into "discussions" that give you a chance to foreground your own weird fetishes. Your thoughts?
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Frank
5322 posts
Sep 19, 2014
5:32 AM
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A threads direction is a mystery as is a players commitment level to his art from one day to the next - questions are asked out of simple curiosity... Members have free will to not participate in threads, it's our choice! And when did farts become a fetish or weird :)
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The Iceman
2080 posts
Sep 19, 2014
6:15 AM
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am kinda w/Kudzu on this one...rather than debate the words "fetish" "weird", etc., and your clever answer, Adam may be referring to intent.
I find your questions/responses to walk that line between actual useful content and facetiousness.
Guess there is no reason not to "Walk the Line", though.
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Frank
5323 posts
Sep 19, 2014
6:19 AM
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Let us not turn the direction of this discussion into a boring "meta-debate" and keep to the program - OK? :)
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A Groovy Kind Of Love
When I'm feeling blue, all I have to do
Is take a look at you, then I'm not so blue
When you're close to me, I can feel your heart beat
I can hear you breathing near my ear
Wouldn't you agree, baby you and me got a groovy kind of love
Anytime you want to you can turn me onto
Anything you want to, anytime at all
When I kiss your lips, ooh I start to shiver
Can't control the quivering inside
Wouldn't you agree, baby you and me got a groovy kind of love,
oh
When I'm feeling blue, all I have to do
Is take a look at you, then I'm not so blue
When I'm in your arms, nothing seems to matter
My whole world could shatter, I don't care
Wouldn't you agree, baby you and me got a groovy kind of love
We got a groovy kind of love
We got a groovy kind of love, oh
We got a groovy kind of love
Last Edited by Frank on Sep 19, 2014 6:23 AM
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The Iceman
2081 posts
Sep 19, 2014
6:37 AM
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very clever response.
(Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so thank you).
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Frank
5325 posts
Sep 19, 2014
6:47 AM
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If that's the case - then Kenny Werner must be a bit overwhelmed by yours :)
Ironically my clever response was (You disciplining yourself) hopefully you'll take your own advice:)
Last Edited by Frank on Sep 19, 2014 7:03 AM
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IgorKasuya
74 posts
Sep 19, 2014
7:07 AM
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I think I am in the middle of way...
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The Iceman
2083 posts
Sep 19, 2014
7:22 AM
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Frank...
I get it.
btw, I was fortunate enough to discover Kenny Werner (and hang with him) when he first published "Effortless Mastery". At that time, he was driving around the country in a beat up station wagon doing the jazz college circuit and giving his lecture to 8 students and selling copies of his book out of his trunk. This was also the time I was writing my column for AHN which incorporated many similar philosophies, and this was before I had read his book.
When he came to Wayne State University, I read about his lecture in the paper and dragged the drummer in my blues band with me, where there were a total of 8 of us in the audience. That night Kenny played a show at a little jazz club upstairs in an almost abandoned building on Woodward down in the city. Since I was one of 5 people in the audience, it was here that I first had real quality time sitting and talking with him.
We commiserated - great minds think alike, etc.
His final email to me on this subject (way back in the mid 90's) was "Glad to see you are on the same path, Brother".
OK, now I won't play the "whoever has the last word wins" game with you on this subject :)
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The Iceman
Last Edited by The Iceman on Sep 19, 2014 7:37 AM
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Frank
5327 posts
Sep 19, 2014
7:43 AM
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Message moved to new thread :)
Last Edited by Frank on Sep 19, 2014 7:45 AM
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Honkin On Bobo
1256 posts
Sep 19, 2014
9:00 AM
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Too funny!
At the height of the Frank instigated #1 UNDISPUTED BLUES (fill in the blank) craze, I was going to post a facetious thread titled: #1 UNDISPUTED BLUES PLAYER WHOSE FARTS SMELL LIKE FLOWERS. And post to the thread "Frank any thoughts?", thereby highlighting his ridiculousness. I refrained, figuring it would get me warned, suspended, whatever.
Now Frank has actually linked to a video entitled "fart remix", to which Kudzu has so eloquently responded:
"Frank, the last video you posted (the fart video) suggests that you're not a serious and committed harmonica player, but rather somebody who asks facetious questions as a way of drawing the membership of this forum into "discussions" that give you a chance to foreground your own weird fetishes. Your thoughts?"
..........brilliant
Last Edited by Honkin On Bobo on Sep 19, 2014 9:05 AM
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