MP
931 posts
Oct 19, 2010
10:23 AM
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--anyone know where to download a chart showing all possible overblows and maybe, overdraws too?
i know that when i over blow #6 hole i get a note a third above the normal #6 blow,but....i thought i heard someone talking about bending the OB and getting extra notes on top of that.
i like the idea of having even more possibilities.
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strawwoodclaw
117 posts
Oct 19, 2010
11:03 AM
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maybe www.overblow.com or www.tenhole.com
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nacoran
3023 posts
Oct 19, 2010
11:07 AM
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I think these two charts taken together cover the basic options- blows, draws, over draws, blow bends and over blows. (Careful searching, there seems to be an infected site out there. I had a site trying to scan my computer.)
These two are good though, and taken together I think they've got everything for a C. You can use that to extrapolate out for other keys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonica_techniques
http://www.coast2coastmusic.com/diatonic/overblows.shtml
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Last Edited by on Oct 19, 2010 11:46 AM
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harpdude61
405 posts
Oct 19, 2010
11:09 AM
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Chart at the bottom of this page...good instruction here..
http://www.coast2coastmusic.com/diatonic/overblows.shtml
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Greyowlphotoart
146 posts
Oct 19, 2010
11:33 AM
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Here is a very good resource, just punch in the key (it lists them all), then Major, minor etc., then hit 'display layout' and hey presto a harp chart is generated with Ob's etc., I haven't used it in anger yet but it may be what you're looking for.
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/myquill/HarpLayoutGenerator.html
Edit: below is a related webpage which gives some preset charts and also provides a legend for the symbols used in the generator chart. It's really very good.
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/myquill/Harmonica.html#LayoutGen
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nacoran
3024 posts
Oct 19, 2010
11:57 AM
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I think this is correct. I cobbled it together from a couple charts. I don't really over blow so I won't swear by it.
I've never heard of people playing the orange-ish ones in the bottom right. You can get the same notes as blow bends. If anyone sees any mistakes, let me know and I'll fix it.
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Last Edited by nacoran on Jun 27, 2019 8:46 PM
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ridge
103 posts
Oct 19, 2010
12:47 PM
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My first impression is that you should change your holes 2 and 3 layout and not call them overdraws, they are draw bends and should be listed in Pink instead of red.
On the blow bends, you have hole 7 blow bend being C# when it should really be flatter than 7 blow. Blow bends always flatten the note.
Hole 9 blow bend should be F# and no Ab since Ab is sharper than G.
Hole 10 blow bends should be B and Bb instead of C# and B.
You can also add that 8 overdraw is the note F on a C diatonic. It's enharmonic to 9 draw.
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harpdude61
406 posts
Oct 19, 2010
1:02 PM
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High end is all wrong....overdraws are on 7,8,9,10
This chart is great...overblows and overdraws are highlighted red.
http://overblow.com/?menuid=26
You can bend the overbends up 1/2 step or more but these are for effect only since these notes already exist.
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KeithE
121 posts
Oct 19, 2010
2:16 PM
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Here's one on David Barrett's site - the url indicates that it's in a private area, but this goes with one of the sample lessons that he allows anyone to view.
http://www.bluesharmonica.com/sites/bluesharmonica.com/files/private/Harmonica%20Chart%20%5BAll%20Keys%5D_3.pdf
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nacoran
3025 posts
Oct 19, 2010
2:19 PM
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Ok, that should be fixed now. I did it in a hurry and got distracted before double checking it. Thanks.
(Harpdude, that was the chart I was looking for in the first place!) There seems to be some terminology issues. The high overblows seem to get called overblows and overdraws.
Keith, even better!
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Last Edited by on Oct 19, 2010 2:25 PM
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GermanHarpist
1787 posts
Oct 19, 2010
3:07 PM
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You mention, that the six overblow is a minor third of the six blow. That's true, however it would be better to say that the overblow is half a tone over the draw note. Because that's actually what happens. You block the blow reed and the draw reed starts sounding - just a little higher in pitch (less than a quarter note) over the draw reed drawn. Which is why you have to bend it up to play it in pitch.
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harpdude61
407 posts
Oct 19, 2010
3:44 PM
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nacaron..that is the best chart system I have seen. Blues lovers....go to the 3rd column and click on blues as the scale. You will see the blues scale in first position on a C Harp. Go all the way down to the F harp in the first row and you will see C blues scale in 2nd position....up one to a Bb harp to 3rd position, up one to 4th position...all the way to 12th on the G harp. THis shows what notes are in the blues scale for each position.
http://overblow.com/?menuid=26
I love the overdraws. 7 OD in 2nd position is a mean note decending the blues scale from 9 blow...especially if you sustain and bend up
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MP
932 posts
Oct 19, 2010
6:03 PM
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wow! thanks for the great response everyone...charts -n-all!
nice work nac! now you can go to FORUM SEARCH and get a chart right quick rather than sifting through ob arguments!
@german, yes, i see.
i like moving in half steps on that hole. 6b 6db 6d 6ob, and the reverse of that like a chromatic harp. it's a good exercise.
cool.
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