KentuckyBlues
13 posts
Feb 28, 2014
5:45 PM
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Just finished the harmonica tone clinic video Adam has on here. As far as vibrato, I can kinda get it on the exhale, but can't even get a cough sound.
any tips on how to get it?
the exhale I understand, but unless its with my lips or stomach, it ain't happening on the inhale.
this is an issue I've run into before. 4draw bends with vibrato sound killer. I wana sound killer!
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groyster1
2554 posts
Feb 28, 2014
6:15 PM
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gotta get it on inhale....your epiglottis closes in inspiration BUT inward coughing or laughing....you have to open it to get that sound....unnatural...its the gold standard of blowin` harp....strengthen your throat muscles....
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snowman
24 posts
Feb 28, 2014
6:27 PM
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hi I'll try to send audio of vibrato no time right now--there is a difference in singing between 'pulsing' and 'vibrato' pulsing is breaking up the air with no pitch chance--- vibrato is floating between the straight draw pitch and a full 1/2 or 1/4 bend the actual frequency is going up n down [fast]and takes a while to get a feel for it try 6 draw bend as well as 4 draw -close throat way down and pinch and release a little- exactly like a guitar player bending a string [pitch changes with the bend]hop i didn't sound like a know it all try to make audio later maybe video
Last Edited by snowman on Feb 28, 2014 6:28 PM
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KentuckyBlues
15 posts
Feb 28, 2014
8:28 PM
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I'll keep at it, thanks guys
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MindTheGap
309 posts
Mar 01, 2014
12:21 AM
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KB - as it happens that's what I'm working on at the moment. I had a lesson on it just yesterday.
Have you seen this video from the great Lee Sankey? He is talking about sophisticated sweet pitch-based vibrato esp. on bends, but at the start he shows the sounds you could expect to get from different some different techniques.
(BTW so as not to get hung up on terms vibrato and tremolo, see the recent post 'Real Vibrato at Last?) where Winslow Yerxa helpfully names the parts: 5560960/5463839.htm
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MTG
Last Edited by MindTheGap on Mar 01, 2014 12:25 AM
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KentuckyBlues
18 posts
Mar 01, 2014
5:46 AM
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i think i just need to practice more..
That video kinda helped, maybe i just dont get it.
on the exhale i can do some, but i played brass in highschool, and that is why i get that much i guess..
Ill keep trying, its bound to click sooner or later, right?
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MindTheGap
310 posts
Mar 01, 2014
6:09 AM
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I've heard it said that things like vibrato just emerge as you play more. Personally I like to meet these things head on, work out how to do it at all even in the most basic way, then practice the hell out of it until it is automatic. So I can do vibrato but I can tell it's going to be a while before it's musical. That's ok.
Have you seen this one, a lot of people pointed me at this by JP Allen. Although he says it's hard and takes ages! Machine guns and baa sheep, on the inhale :-)
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MTG
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Oxharp
582 posts
Mar 01, 2014
6:38 AM
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This is a very good explanation about vibrato and control needed to achieve this type of skill.
This technique for me was and still is the hardest to master.
It is still a work in progress so don't be too hard on yourselves guys this is a developing skill and comes with time and patience.
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Oxharp
Last Edited by Oxharp on Mar 01, 2014 6:39 AM
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MindTheGap
313 posts
Mar 01, 2014
7:53 AM
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oxharp - thanks that is a good explanation. KB I think it's similar to learning to bend - your read all these explanations and it's all mysterious, then you try and try, and get a toehold and you are in. Then the explanations make sense. Then another x years to make it work right! (well for some of us).
I've had the benefit of hearing oxharp's excellent singing-quality vibrato first hand and that is the sound I wish to acquire. JP Allen's is more of a stutter, at least in that vid.
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MTG
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Milsson
111 posts
Mar 01, 2014
10:30 AM
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It will take a lifetime to master. Keep practicing. It´s not natural to close of the glottis while breathing in thats why you are having trouble with that.
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Mirco
128 posts
Mar 01, 2014
10:37 AM
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Jon Gindick always says to think back to your childhood, when you were doing machine gun noises or an old man voice.
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laurent2015
617 posts
Mar 01, 2014
10:59 AM
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I don't get that damned thing either, but as for draw bend, do you, fellows, agree if I say: mimic a hiccup, it could be a good start? After, mimic 10 hiccups in a row, faster and faster...
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mlefree
145 posts
Mar 01, 2014
11:06 AM
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David Barrett advised me to practice pre-bending to a lower tone and then gradually approaching the unbent note to see how short you can make that resulting change in pitch . As Alex suggests in his video, begin slowly and with practice speed up to your desired tempo.
This advice has been very helpful to me on my still works in progress developing my vibrato.
Thanks,
Michelle
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