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HELP, I need to play to Fog On The Tyne.
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geordiebluesman
715 posts
Apr 02, 2013
12:26 PM
Hi Guys I have found a talented Singer Songwriter Guitarist to work with and we are putting a Guitar/Harp Duo together.
The set won't be all Blues so I'm gonna have to grow a bit as a player, the first song I need to get a grip on is, Fog On The Tyne by Lindisfarne which is like the Geordie National Anthem!
I want to vamp along to his guitar and then come in on the "Solo" section at 1.33, but I'm a bit lost,I can't seem to figure it out,I think the song is in G and a G harp in first sorta fits in places but a C harp in second is'nt good. Where am I getting it wrong?

Last Edited by geordiebluesman on Apr 02, 2013 12:27 PM
Gipsy
13 posts
Apr 02, 2013
12:41 PM
I'll check this out with the guys in the club, but in the meantime if a Lindisfarne number is important are you doing ' Meet me on the corner ' . It's a great singalong number.
Grey Owl
34 posts
Apr 02, 2013
12:56 PM
Hi Geordie a great old classic. Yes It's in G I believe and C in 2nd position works well for me for the first part and G works well too in 1st.,

Then there is a key change when it goes into the instrumental part which I think is A so an A harp in 1st could work or D in 2nd. I can play the violin melody at this point in second, but impro needs a bit of work. I'll take another look at it to see if another harp works better.

btw It dips back to G again at the end of the instrumental.
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The Iceman
815 posts
Apr 02, 2013
3:55 PM
Lady Eleanor, Take Good Care of Business, my friend, otherwise, you'll end up on the shelf....

Love that band.

(I was the only Yank in the 60's who was totally into them, it seems. Also loved the Eric Sykes show).
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AirMojo
350 posts
Apr 02, 2013
4:49 PM
Here's a YouTube of the song... sounds to me like the song starts in the key of G, so a C harp in 2nd works well, or a G in 1st... at the 1:33 point, sounds like it switches to the key of D, so a G harp in 2nd works... then it switches back to the key of G.

At first the key change at 1:33 sounded "flat" to me when I tried the C harp... but the G-harp in 2nd seems to sound okay.

Last Edited by AirMojo on Apr 02, 2013 4:49 PM
The Iceman
816 posts
Apr 02, 2013
5:07 PM
trivia time....

a call went out for a mandolin player to lay down a track at an English recording studio.

Lindisfarne's mandolin player showed up and laid down his simple mandolin track and got paid hourly scale wage for a studio musician back in the day...not too much.

It became the most famous mandolin track ever - the call was from Rod Stewart and the track recorded was Maggie May.
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geordiebluesman
716 posts
Apr 03, 2013
12:06 AM
OK Lads let's FOCUS here, what I am after is some ideas about what to play and where,and in what key and position, hopefully from someone who has, or still does perform this song.
This ain't ya standard I IV V chord structure and that's what \i'm strugling with,I feel this is a real GATEWAY moment here and if I can pass through (with a little help from my friends) I know I'm gonna make a real leap forward in my musical developement!
Oh by the way I'm supposed to have it sussed by Friday for our next rehearsal!.

Last Edited by geordiebluesman on Apr 03, 2013 12:08 AM
timeistight
1168 posts
Apr 03, 2013
1:20 AM
When in doubt, play the melody!

Here's a guitar lesson that might be fun to practice with:


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Grey Owl
35 posts
Apr 03, 2013
1:24 AM
My advice Geordie, Pick another Lindisfarne song!

I bought this album in 1971 and played it to death so I'm only taking time to do this to pay my respects to the band ;o)

It's a tough one because of the key changes not only from first part to the solo but I reckon the key changes in the solo too a couple of times.

I'm guessing you don't want to keep switching harps so stick with a G harp.

Pick out the fiddle melody or improvise around those useable notes.

Notes from the lines 'The fog on the Tyne is all mine
The fog on the Tyne is all mine, all mine'

= +4+4+4+4, +5+5+6,-6-6+6, +6-6-6-6-7-7-7+7
So so you play the melody here as written or grab chords round the notes and comp

some verse line notes

= +4+4+4+4+5+6, -6-6-6-6+6+5, -6-6-6-6+6+6+5

key change - instrumental break fiddle solo (sort of)
-2-2-3**/-3 -4, +5+5-4+5-4-3
or -2-2-3**/-3 -4,-5-5+6-5+5+4

then on the key change back in solo
+4+4-4+5+6, -6-6-7-6+6+5

Hope this gives give you some ideas to play around with.

Now get practicing man, you haven't got much time!!

BTW I don't know what the heck Ray Jackson was playing on harp on that vid, I think he must have been using it as a prop.
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geordiebluesman
717 posts
Apr 03, 2013
1:32 AM
Hey Grey Owl thanks for that, Who knew this song would be such a challenge it sounds so simple!
I know this is a big ask but is there any chance you could post a vid of the Tab you have posted so I can get a feel for what you are suggesting, I am quite poor at interpreting tab, I blame my head injury, but then I blame that for a lot of the wierd stuff that I do!
All The Best Geordie.
Grey Owl
36 posts
Apr 03, 2013
1:38 AM
You're welcome. I'll try and upload a sound file sometime today if I get a chance.
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Grey Owl
37 posts
Apr 03, 2013
4:24 AM
Here's some ideas Geordie.


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geordiebluesman
718 posts
Apr 03, 2013
9:45 AM
Thanks Mr Owl, you are a gent!, I will have another couple of hours at it tonight and see what transpires.
I very much appreciate you taking the time to do that.
All The Best
Geordie.
geordiebluesman
719 posts
Apr 04, 2013
1:36 AM
Hi Guys, well it took a while but I got there in the end and I have a nice arrangement for Fog On The Tyne, Thanks for all the help especially Grey Owl, I will post a vid of me and Paul, my guitar man performing it when the time arrives.Ta,Geordie.
Grey Owl
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Apr 04, 2013
1:57 AM
Great Geordie, I look forward to hearing it.
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