Frank
1346 posts
Nov 01, 2012
4:56 PM
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They don't ship until Dec 2012
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/folk-traditional-instruments/hohner-marine-band-crossover-harmonica-m2009
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JInx
327 posts
Nov 01, 2012
5:30 PM
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couldn't resist, at that price?! give me a dozen! those harps are the schnizel
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JInx
329 posts
Nov 01, 2012
5:40 PM
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crazy. too good to be true?
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1847
315 posts
Nov 01, 2012
6:54 PM
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i am a staunch seydel player
even i could not resist!
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1847
316 posts
Nov 01, 2012
7:09 PM
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They don't ship until Dec 2012
now that's what i call a slooooow blues
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capnj
60 posts
Nov 01, 2012
7:34 PM
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Thanks for the heads up Frank,ordered some hope their just moving some old stock,not dumping a bad run something said 2009,and some special no return policy,roll the dice,baby.
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KingoBad
1194 posts
Nov 01, 2012
8:21 PM
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Woooo hoooo! Thanks for the info!
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Littoral
633 posts
Nov 02, 2012
3:15 AM
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Ok, me too. Thanks!
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harp-er
239 posts
Nov 02, 2012
6:24 AM
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And me.
If they don't ship til mid December, can they be
old stock?
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Johncn
27 posts
Nov 02, 2012
8:09 AM
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Thanks, Frank. Still had them at that price as of 11:13 AM Eastern, and one is on its way to me for Christmas. ;-)
I also noticed they had some other Hohner styles with special pricing in certain keys. The Meisterklasse in C for $62.91 and free shipping, for example:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/folk-traditional-instruments/hohner-580-meisterklasse-harmonica/584361000820000
Johncn
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Frank
1353 posts
Nov 02, 2012
9:14 AM
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Glad it worked out for you guys...When I first saw the sale, I thought all the keys were going to be that price...The Key of "A" was it though, still a very happy consumer of that deal :)
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528hemi
325 posts
Nov 02, 2012
10:20 AM
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Thanks Frank...
NOw I have a G coming from amazon for 37.99 and an A coming for 37.99
528hemi
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Joe_L
2138 posts
Nov 02, 2012
10:21 AM
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Thanks!
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Rick Davis
888 posts
Nov 02, 2012
10:31 AM
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Thanks for the tip! I ordered one.
I still have and play the 1st Crossover I ever bought, in 2009. Key of A. It took weeks go get it.
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Last Edited by on Nov 02, 2012 10:32 AM
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528hemi
341 posts
Dec 05, 2012
6:30 AM
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I hope it is not like the two I received from Amazon ( music123 ). Both were from 2010/2011 and probably returns. They were horrible. I sent 1 back and the other I am having a tough time gapping the 3 draw.
I am usually good at gapping but this one I think I will have to send to someone better then me to setup.
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nutty316
4 posts
Dec 05, 2012
6:33 AM
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I got a A crossover recently. 2 and 3 draw were so bad OOTB they are barely playable. I have not done gapping before so maybe sending it back. I could see little tweaks but suprises something this bad got passed thru on a what i can tell will be a quality harp.
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Gnarly
424 posts
Dec 05, 2012
7:03 AM
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It is my belief that every musician needs to become acquainted with simple repair and adjustments of their instrument.
I haven't tried this model yet, but for years I eschewed the Marine Band because of things I had heard others say about it. It's not present in my kit, but I have several now that I have tweaked, and that are great!
The Crossover is almost certainly a quality harp, and if you get a bum one, send it back to SOMEONE, sell it here or learn to smash horns--
Don't start with an expensive harp, of course--would the Marine Band be a good harp to learn on?
Disclaimer: I do repairs for Suzuki, and so as such recommend you only buy our products.
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Littoral
671 posts
Dec 05, 2012
7:24 AM
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hmmm, we should compare our collective results on this shipment. Sample size just big enough to maybe be significant. Musician Friend might be interested to know (assuming they don't) if the the back order was selected out for some reason.
Science Geek:
compare
results
Sample size
significant
selected
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Harphound
25 posts
Dec 05, 2012
8:08 AM
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Yeah I ordered the G from Amazon and the A from MF.(37.99) A couple weeks ago I got a email from Amazon say order cancelled out of stock.I went to Music 123 website and they had the G in stock.I called them and they honoured the $37.99 price delivered.Received it last week and it's a nice harp.
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Rick Davis
970 posts
Dec 05, 2012
8:25 AM
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Shipped!
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1847
391 posts
Dec 06, 2012
8:43 AM
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it's on it's way
i have not bought a marine band
in i don't know how long
when did $40.00 become a good deal? lol
if in fact 40.00 dollars is a good deal
you can take the receipt
to guitar center or sam ash
and order other keys
i think they have to honor the price
they have a low price guarantee
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JInx
336 posts
Dec 07, 2012
12:43 AM
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Tracked mine to Kansas City...oh yeah yeah!
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1847
395 posts
Dec 07, 2012
1:28 PM
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so are any of these guys actually playing the crossover?
i mean really perhaps steve baker
they all say how great it is but who is using what?
Dave Gage: "One of the best-sounding and playing diatonic harmonicas out-of-the-box. Great for players of all levels and musical styles and worth the extra penny for the increased quality and playability. The sound is bright, but not overly bright. It plays as well as expensive, customized harmonicas."
Joe Filisko: "This Crossover is an exceptional harmonica. I have to say that this is without any doubt the best playing out-of-the-box harmonica that I've ever had my hands on. It's a notable, substantial upgrade to the diatonics I have played. It played very well. That's a big deal, because I trusted it. The tuning is superb; responsiveness is excellent. It's very responsive. The bends are right there."
Steve Baker: "As a Marine Band player for 40 years I really love the Crossover and am proud to have been closely involved in its development from the very beginning. The first time I played the very first prototype with a bamboo comb I was blown away by the sound, volume, response and playing feel and thought 'this is it!' I own a lot of custom harps, but this is what I use on stage because it's tough, reliable, and both plays and sounds great."
Jerry Portnoy: "The Marine Band Crossover is a terrific harp in every aspect: beautiful, sealed bamboo comb; strong, attractive cover plates and; most importantly, well tuned with good volume and projection; plus smooth, responsive playability from bottom to top. It also comes in a handy and unique zippered case. I've made it my personal harp of choice. Another winner from Hohner!"
Phil Wiggins: "It's beautiful. It is nice right out of the box. Great tone. Great feel. I'm loving it."
Dennis Gruenling: "I like the comb a lot: how it felt, how it responded, how it sounded. The feel and response is closer to a custom Marine Band."
R.J. Mischo: "The Crossover is a great instrument! I've been playing professionally since 1979 and have tried all the models and this is the best out-of-the-box harp yet."
David Barrett: "The Crossover is Hohner's best harmonica to date . . . great feel, playability, and most importantly, great sound! For those who want the great sound of our forefathers but the playability of a modern-designed harmonica, put Hohner's Crossover harmonica at the top of your shopping list."
James Conway: "I needed a five overblow and it was there. To get a rack-mounted, five ov
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Frank
1550 posts
Dec 08, 2012
3:54 AM
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Arrived...
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Steamrollin Stan
634 posts
Dec 08, 2012
4:23 AM
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69.95 when i looked, i'll stick with my sp20's.
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HarpNinja
2959 posts
Dec 08, 2012
5:57 AM
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My favorite model to play and customize. Most my harps are XO's. when people want to order a MB from me, I always suggest starting with the XO.
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tmf714
1404 posts
Dec 08, 2012
6:36 AM
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@1847-Dennis is using them for sure-Don't know about the others
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Lonesome Harpman
112 posts
Dec 08, 2012
7:45 AM
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I've never had a problem with an OOTB Crossover. All have been very good and a few were/are exceptional. No shit folks, these are as good as some of my customs. Looking in to my case, I see that I have 14 of them, some of them are primary harps others back ups. I'll add a Disclaimer to prevent scope creep,my choice is largely subjective. There's no way that everyone will find these harps as satisfying as I do.
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BeelzeBob
26 posts
Dec 09, 2012
4:14 PM
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I noticed on Rockin Ron's site that when you buy reed plates for either a Deluxe or a Crossover, they ship the same plate. Does that mean buying reed plates for a Deluxe will be an upgrade, or do they both use the same reed plate?
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STME58
315 posts
Dec 09, 2012
5:01 PM
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Deleted for inaccuracy
Last Edited by on Dec 09, 2012 10:15 PM
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1847
399 posts
Dec 09, 2012
7:12 PM
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the crossover has a different tuning
if i am not mistaken
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groyster1
2091 posts
Dec 10, 2012
7:57 AM
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compromise tuning leaning more to equal tuning as opposed to the classic&deluxe,correct me if Im wrong...personally I prefer blues tuning,I can tell the difference
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HarpNinja
2962 posts
Dec 10, 2012
8:27 AM
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It has been shared by Hohner that the reeds and reed plates are the exact same on all MB models. They are drilled for the MBD and XO, and the XO is tuned to a different compromise that is closer to ET.
The cover plates are also the exact same, but have different stamps. The MBD uses slotted cover screws, whereas the XO uses phillips.
IME, the current production MB, MBD, and XO play fantastically. I have not hard evidence, but I think there was a time where the XO had something unique about the plates/reeds. However, recent harps suggest the three are now closer to the same.
End of the day, I prefer working on XO if only because they are already drilled and tapped. I love the sound and feel OOTB. As previously stated, they are my favorite harps.
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STME58
321 posts
Dec 10, 2012
9:22 AM
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I deleted my earlier post on this subject because I had misconstrued something Ron had told me. My only relationship with Ron is as a customer. I have been impressed with his service and I was further impressed that I heard from him shortly after my posting. He appears to just be a small businessman but the way he gets things done and keeps track of things, I sometimes wonder if he has a legion of elves working for him:-)
What I just confirmed with him, is that he tries to order specific original replacement parts for Crossover and MBD, but no matter which he orders, the same plate is sent. Hohner would know if there is a difference between original plates and replacement plates on these models.
I have a couple of Crossovers but I do not have a Marine Band Deluxe. These harps are less similar than I thought they were. I see from Hohner’s copy that the MBD is nailed together like the original. I can’t tell all of the differences from the copy as part of the MBD description is in German, even on the English web page. It is clear from the copy that the tuning is “Traditional HOHNER” on the MBD and “modern compromise” on the Crossover. I don’t know exactly what those two terms mean.
I have an E crossover that I have replaced the reed plates on. I don’t know if I can play notes consistently enough into a tuner to get the exact tuning of the replacement plates. Even if I could I don’t know how to differentiate between Traditional HOHNER and modern compromise tuning.
I lifted the following right off the Hohner web site.
http://us.playhohner.com/instruments/harmonica/diatonic/marine-band/
Marine Band Deluxe
• Pearwood comb
• Arched stainless steel covers with side vents, nailed
• 20 Classic reeds, 0.9 mm brass reed plates, mounted with nails
• Single laquered pearwood comb
• Traditional HOHNER tuning
Marine Band Deluxe
BACK TO THE ROOTS - STATE OF THE ART !
HOHNER zeichnet sich vor allem durch Innovationen und stetiges Streben nach Verbesserungen innerhalb bestehenden und bewährten Produktlinien aus.
Der Name Marine Band steht für eine lange, erfolgreiche Tradition in der Herstellung von hochwertigen Mundharmonikas. Mit raffinierten Kunstgriffen entwickelte HOHNER die traditionelle Marine Band weiter zu einem veredelten, professionellen High End Instrument, der Marine Band Deluxe. Sie ist die ideale Mundharmonika, sowohl für traditionelle Bluesstile als auch für moderne Spieltechniken.
Ein Kanzellenkörper aus Birnbaum-Holz und die gewölbten Edelstahldeckel mit seitlichen Schallschlitzen verleihen dem Instrument ihren legendären Klang, der auf vielen klassischen Blues-Aufnahmen zu hören ist. Mit der neuen Marine Band Deluxe ist es gelungen, eine Vielzahl an Optimierungen, schnellere Tonansprache, erhöhtes Klangvolumen und vieles mehr zu verwirklichen.
Crossover
Marine Band Crossover
• New improved cover design gives greater volume
and stability while preventing reed rattle.
• Triple-coated laminated bamboo comb (patented), an
innovative renewable natural material.
• Attractive HOHNER logo brand on back of comb. Covers
and reed plates fitted with Philips head screws permit easy
assembly and disassembly and facilitate maintenance.
With the Crossover we have expanded the Marine Band series to introduce a new, top-of-the-line professional quality instrument for the discerning player in modern blues, rock, jazz, soul or funk. The revolutionary laminated bamboo comb (patented) is completely sealed, making it water repellent and exceptionally stable. In combination with the screw together assembly the Crossover is extremely airtight, with fast, even response and a raspy, powerful sound which is exceptionally well suited to amplified playing as well as acoustic styles. The modern compromise tuning is ideal for single note playing in different positions in a wide range of contemporary styles, while still retaining a full chord sound, making the Crossover an optimal addition to the great Marine Band range.
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jiceblues
128 posts
Dec 10, 2012
9:36 AM
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MARINE BAND DELUXE don't have nails .They are mounted with screws .
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HarpNinja
2963 posts
Dec 10, 2012
10:40 AM
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MBD's have the exact same screws as the XO - three stainless M1.4. The hardware is totally interchangeable between the two.
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JInx
338 posts
Dec 10, 2012
10:51 AM
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My XOs have similar but not "exactly the same" cover plates as my MBDs. The XO has a speacial anti mustache snagger dersign. Also, my XOs have pozi drive screws, not phillips
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Tuckster
1216 posts
Dec 10, 2012
11:11 AM
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Just got my XO today. My first XO. Only played it 5 minutes. Really nice harp! Very even response across all holes. Really comfortable to play. I like the opened up covers and brass? coverplate screws. I could OB 5 & 6 and I'm not really an OBer. Heck of a deal for under $40.
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JInx
339 posts
Dec 10, 2012
7:34 PM
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Got mine, and.....it's a dud. The 2 blow is barely there.
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Gnarly
426 posts
Dec 10, 2012
8:51 PM
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@JInx get it to Hohner ASAP, they have a warranty.
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1847
403 posts
Dec 10, 2012
9:16 PM
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buy a reed wrench from this guy arzajac
center the reed your self
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MP
2579 posts
Dec 11, 2012
12:06 PM
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i use my F Crossover every gig. my A Crossover lives in my pocket and loves to go backpacking.
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MP
affordable reed replacement and repairs.
"making the world a better place, one harmonica at a time"
click user name [MP] for info-
repair videos on YouTube.
you can reach me via Facebook. Mark Prados
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Littoral
678 posts
Dec 11, 2012
3:42 PM
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Got mine. It's my 3rd and the other 2 are better. This one needs a little tweak but it's ok. Anybody else had torn packaging?
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KingoBad
1213 posts
Dec 11, 2012
4:07 PM
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Mine arrived and it is great. Can OB 1-6 Otb. 6ob extremely smooth. I don't od well so i can't comment on that end, except that it plays well. It will need a little tweaking on holes 1-3 for my liking, but I am impressed. Comb is very comfortable. I would switch to these if they normally went for this price...
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1847
406 posts
Dec 11, 2012
4:22 PM
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KingoBad
take your receipt and get your bad self down to guitar center you can buy one every 29 days at that price
they will be pissed but they have a 30 day lowest price guarantee
or you can save your pennies and get a seydel 1847
now that's bad ass!
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capnj
71 posts
Dec 11, 2012
6:40 PM
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I Bought 3 only opened one,really like the feel,trying to break in slow,is not as loud as my sp20,time will tell.1847 thanks time to get me some guitar center,they don't stock much here but cheapos,hopefully pop a few.
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Frank
1567 posts
Dec 12, 2012
8:26 AM
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Guitar Center will only match a price that is currently being promoted, by other legitimate Musical merchandise competitors, both brick and mortar and online stores...sadly the $37.99 sale has ended :(
Last Edited by on Dec 12, 2012 8:28 AM
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groyster1
2093 posts
Dec 12, 2012
9:14 AM
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received my crossover yesterday...purchased only because of sale ...great harp,better construction than the marine band but as far as sound...not much different...the mb classic now produced are really great harps
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Frank
1568 posts
Dec 12, 2012
9:11 AM
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the mb classic now produced are really great harps...AGREED, their sounding and playing GREAT!
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MP
2585 posts
Dec 12, 2012
10:21 AM
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My A Crossover was a students Christmas gift to me. it was a first run job and before i played it we opened it up . it had breath moisture tarnish on the reed plates. a human had test played it, i'm positive because i fix harps every single day. we thought it interesting.
it arrived in a blister pack too. put it back together and it OBed 4-6 w/ ease.
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MP
affordable reed replacement and repairs.
"making the world a better place, one harmonica at a time"
click user name [MP] for info-
repair videos on YouTube.
you can reach me via Facebook. Mark Prados
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