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Killa_Hertz
2397 posts
Dec 12, 2017
7:22 PM
Hey yall. Been gone a while.
How yall doin?
Killa_Hertz
2398 posts
Dec 12, 2017
7:25 PM
Just call me Ted Kazinski.... cus I been out in the woodshed.
Here's a little video of my progress thus far.

My shortened practice version of Walter's Boogie. It's still a work in progress, but.... here goes nothin.....

Last Edited by Killa_Hertz on Dec 12, 2017 7:26 PM
Havoc
81 posts
Dec 12, 2017
10:21 PM
Wow!
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If you don't cut it while it's hot......
SkullKid
93 posts
Dec 13, 2017
3:07 AM
Hey Killa,
good to have you back man! I was wondering where you had been. In regards to your video I can only second Havoc, it sounds awesome! :)
Do you (also) use the bathroom because of the acoustics? Or are you just worried that your girl might kick you out? :P
I shared my attempt at Adam's Front Porch blues here and in the main forum recently, and it would be cool if you could check it out, since you are one of the more (self-)critical players, which I appreciate.
Again, good to have you back,
Skullkid

Last Edited by SkullKid on Dec 13, 2017 3:07 AM
Killa_Hertz
2400 posts
Dec 13, 2017
5:15 AM
Thanks guys. Yea I've been MIA here for a while. Figured I would stop in and show you my progress. Everytime I pop back in there's so much to catch up on... lol. All these threads that I've missed.

Skull kid that video you did was really good. I typed a post in the thread. However the things I'm trying to explain are hard to describe properly. Since I'm in the video making mood lately, I think ill do a video about them. Hopefully it will help.
Fil
357 posts
Dec 13, 2017
11:55 AM
Hey, welcome back. Been gone too long.
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Phil Pennington
Killa_Hertz
2402 posts
Dec 13, 2017
12:09 PM
Skull kid... yea about the bathroom ... partly due to acoustics, but mostly because it's the only room where I can get any peace... haha. And the suction cup phone Holder fits nicely to the mirror. Lol.

It's a pain trying to find somewhere that it sticks good.

Thanks Fil. How ya been man?
SkullKid
96 posts
Dec 13, 2017
12:25 PM
I see - great tone, btw! What kind of harp are you playing and how long have you been playing again?
Killa_Hertz
2403 posts
Dec 13, 2017
12:52 PM
Thanks man. The harp is a Seydel Session Steel with 1847 cover plates in the key of A.

I've been playing almost exactly 2 1/2 years. I started on this forum barely knowing how to bend. Learned alot on here.
SuperBee
5121 posts
Dec 14, 2017
3:48 AM
I don’t know what to tell you about this. It’s pretty good. But I think you know that. I’m just thinking how good it might be once you have 41 years of experience ;)
Takes a bit to get pieces like this to the coherent stage, and then it’s like ‘yeah I can play that’ and so you do but of course that’s just the start really; then you start to hear where it’s not the same and working out how it’s different
I’ve not really done it to any great extent, especially with a Horton piece. I think I play 4 Horton things: have a good time, easy, walking by myself and hard hearted woman. He’s pretty tough to capture. Like I don’t even bother trying to get his actual sound in most of those, but sometimes you just have to try because it bugs you. Certain things he does you know, it’ll mess with you until you work it out.
Anyway, good job. I should be running my 3rd position licks rather than tapping out words on the phone, so I’ll stop this and do that. But just wanted to acknowledge.
Ciao.
SuperBee
5122 posts
Dec 14, 2017
4:17 AM
I wanted to do a better post than this. I will do better. Kinda why I’d been holding off.
MindTheGap
2421 posts
Dec 14, 2017
4:23 AM
Welcome back, and yes very nice indeed!

If you want constructive criticism I'd say that some of faster phrases feel a little rushed, like they are pushing ahead of the beat. I was tapping along with it and although the overall tempo is stable (that's really good), the beat subdivisions need a little work.

Just to say, I can't play anything like this, so you know, I'm going by what I can hear rather what I can do :)

I have heard people criticise Adam's style (!) but one particular thing he has is fantastic control of those subdivisions of the beat. That's why his stuff is so foot-tapping.

Last Edited by MindTheGap on Dec 14, 2017 4:25 AM
Killa_Hertz
2410 posts
Dec 14, 2017
5:39 AM
Thanks Bee. Yea that's exactly how I feel. I'm at the point were "yea I can play it." But ofcourse it's not horton by a mile. I really want to be able to nail his nuances someday. I'll probably be working on this the rest of my life trying to get it right.... haha.

Of Hortons songs I play this, have a good time, Christine, easy, and I know alot of his comping on muddys "I'm ready" album. I think next I want to figure out Honeydripper.

MTG thanks alot man. Constructive criticism always welcome, you know that. I'm aware that I was playing too fast. I think that's one of my main issues... I get excited and play too fast. I think that I play by myself too much, so there's no consequences for not holding the beat. I think I'm normally better, but the camera makes me nervous so I speed up and lose a bit of breath control. I need to start playing with a backing track or metronome. Help keep my time better.

Also perhaps I was playing a bit too hard trying to make sure the camera picked up the sound. I flubbed a few notes too, but .... if I tried to make it prefect I never would have posted it... haha.

I really wanted to share with you guys because yall remember when I was awful ... lol. So I really wanted to show you my progress thus far.
Fil
358 posts
Dec 14, 2017
6:57 AM
Killa, been good. Still at it hard, a work in progress.
I can't add anything to MTG's comment about rushing some of the phrases. I have the tendency, for sure. I bought an old fashioned wind up metronome a while ago that gives me both a loud tick and a visual. It certainly doesn't take the place of tracks, but I've found that when working some phrases, or even a twelve bar solo, flaws jump out. I frequently record them and can go right to the problem. I've got a few metro- and rhythm apps, but this wind up thing gets used more. I'll practice different rhythms to it as well. Seems to help get them in my head. FWIW....

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Phil Pennington
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Sundancer
184 posts
Dec 16, 2017
2:08 PM
Killa - you’ve just sent my ass humbly shuffling back to the woodshed! Good on ya.

Last Edited by Sundancer on Dec 17, 2017 8:40 AM
Killa_Hertz
2421 posts
Dec 17, 2017
2:21 PM
Sundancer ... Thanks so much man. Hope I didn't discourage anyone.... I thought this would do the opposite.

With the right advice and a bit of Obsession ... you can get pretty far ... lol.

I've still got alot to learn and work on, but ... a few short years ago I was completely awful. Haha. Anyone can do it.
Killa_Hertz
2422 posts
Dec 17, 2017
2:25 PM
Hey Fil. Here is my favorite metronome video. Victor Wooten with the flektones.
Obviously I haven't put it into practice yet, but I need to. lol.
Crawforde
152 posts
Dec 17, 2017
4:38 PM
Good stuff Killa!
And welcome back.
I’ve been away too, but not in the woodshed.
I’m way behind you!
Keep on blowing and If all goes well for you, I want a signed copy of your first album!
Peterv
1 post
Dec 22, 2017
3:48 PM
Hi killa,

I am a new member, been playing on and off for ages but can't play the blues style you played on your video.

Where or which book / video did you start with?

Cheers

Pete
mrjoeyman
10 posts
Dec 23, 2017
10:26 AM
New myself, but when I hear something that sounds good, then its good. Love it, thanks for posting. By the way, there are parts of the song where the sound of the harp gets a kind of organ, accordion sound to it. Is that just the harp, or are you like blocking some of the middle holes with your tongue to get that cool sound? Encore!

(And is there a way to be notified when someone posts something to a post that you make, or have replied to?)

Last Edited by mrjoeyman on Dec 23, 2017 10:27 AM
Killa_Hertz
2423 posts
Dec 24, 2017
4:53 PM
Hey Crawforde ... how you been? I've been meaning to send that 270 down to you. I'll get around to it after the holidays maybe. Maybe you can retreat the covers for me. Thanks for the kind words. Don't know if I'll ever make an album... haha , but I'll be sure to send you one of I do.

Petery. Welcome to the forum. This begginer section is a great place. Mindthegap and Super Bee are very helpful. They ve helped me more than they know.

I started with some really basic videos, but sounds like you know the basics. The videos that were real eye openers were mostly Adam's videos. The key in my opinion is to figure out how to work the layers. Playing a comp rhythm to your own solo ... type of thing. Adam has some riff videos that show some basics on how to do this kindof thing. I'll see if I can find them.

Mr.Joeyman. Thanks. The organ sounds are called "octaves" which are not all technically true octaves , but .... the point is... you can do them by drawing/blowing on 4 holes and blocking the 2 Center holes. So put your mouth over holes 1234 and place the tip of your tongue on holes 2&3. Then you can go up and down the harp with your tongue in this position and play octaves.

Walter Horton tends to bleed in the bottom note so it's a bit of a different sound, but. ... that's for another time maybe.
Crawforde
154 posts
Dec 25, 2017
5:08 AM
Sure send it down.
I can retreat or replace the covers.
I’ll look at that stubborn reed too.
Merry Christmas
Rkchrm


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