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rogonzab
1027 posts
Apr 30, 2017
2:59 PM
David Barrett Minor Details:


I love this lesson. I recorded both ways, acustic and amped.
Is really interesting to see the diferences in tone and dynamic of both takes.

Any of you has done something similar? I learned a lot whit this.
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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.
Killa_Hertz
2314 posts
May 01, 2017
6:44 PM
Nice Zab!!! That was sweet.

Besides the playing, I also like the idea of this experiment. There are certain ways to lay into things to play to the strengths of both acoustic and amped. I'm pretty good at the strengths of acoustic, but I'm not all that with the mic. I don't have nearly enough practice.

What kinds of things did you learn?

What gear are you using (out of curiosity) amp/mic?

What did you use to record? because it sounds alot better than my recording.

What was that you were playing? It was pretty sweet. Reminded me of Bob Corritore style.
Havoc
59 posts
May 01, 2017
9:19 PM
Fabulous!
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SuperBee
4665 posts
May 01, 2017
11:29 PM
neat R'zab.
KHz, that is one of Barrett's songs from his website. part of the level 10 curriculum i think. its called Minor Details. i think the lesson is called Minor Playing - advanced. something like that.
SuperBee
4667 posts
May 02, 2017
12:17 AM
It's actually "3rd position study 7 - advanced minor playing"
Killa_Hertz
2316 posts
May 02, 2017
6:07 AM
AHHHHHHHHHH. Very nice. My 3rd position is still pretty limited. This could be a great one for me to learn.

The hard part about his teachings is .... I think barret breaks everything down WAY too far. I can take a song a pretty well brEak it down by ear. I'll bet this is the final step of about 20 ... lol.

I suppose I can just glaze over the first few lessons to get to the end quicker.

I keep trying to buckle down and get my 3rd position chops up, but I always seem to get sidetracked.
SuperBee
4669 posts
May 02, 2017
7:07 AM
I do actually know what you mean.
He will go through it chorus by chorus and each chorus will be a video. So usually there's 6 or 7. The last one is often similar to the first but with a twist for the end. Usually they're progressive, seems to me, so you learn the things in order which equips you for the next challenge in the next chorus.
But if you got it, no need to labour it.
Really I dunno. The later ones might go a bit quicker because skills developed in earlier lessons. Speculation. I keep paying for access because I like the site but I'm thinking I might try sonic junction for a while instead. I really like some of the stuff DG has been rolling out there lately.
He is doing a 3rd pos lesson at the moment too.
Killa_Hertz
2318 posts
May 02, 2017
7:17 AM
DG? Dennis Gruenling?

Sonic junction is cool. I've watched a bunch of Portnoy stuff on there. Its pretty cool.

I prefer to pay by the lesson honestly. Because I often get in the mode for learning, but by the end of the week ... I'm sidetracked. So I waste the whole month.
SuperBee
4670 posts
May 02, 2017
7:46 AM
Same.
Tuckster
1573 posts
May 02, 2017
7:56 AM
Man,you sound like a pro! Awesome!
MindTheGap
2240 posts
May 02, 2017
8:33 AM
Lovely. And 3rd position is the best!
ScottK
74 posts
May 03, 2017
4:10 PM
Rzab Cool! sounds great. good idea. I've been practicing to tracks going back and forth acoustic into a vocal SM58 and switching to my mic with amp. I love the sound change during solos. And really never thought of that until I saw jason ricci doing it and noticed that Paul Butterfield was doing it. Just haven't done it yet with my new amp VHT sp6 but hopefully I get to tonight...
rogonzab
1028 posts
May 04, 2017
1:02 PM
What I learned was that to play acoustic is an entire different approach to playing amped. When you play acoustic, the slaps needs to be bigger, but if you do bigger slaps amped, you loose definition of the notes. Also, when you play acoustic, you need more breath control because the way mic react to strong air pressure vs soft is actually making strong air pressure LOUDER (proximity effect), so if you are not consistent your dynamic are all over the place. Amped harp give you a natural compression, so your dynamic tends to be more even.

I play amped harp. Always. I practice whit a mic always (but not always whit the amp), so acoustic harp is something new to me. This was my first 100% acoustic song, and playing acoustic is not easy.

I recorded the video whit my laptop webcam, the acoustic part whit a Shure 585 plug into a Focusrite Scarlett Solo. The amped part was a Harp Train whit a Shure 585 a foot away of the grill, then into the Scarlett Solo. All was recorded straight to Reaper. I did compress 3db of the louder parts (octaves) in the acoustic audio, because I don't have a great breath control an it help the audio to be more clear.
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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.


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