DEW
3 posts
Sep 16, 2016
2:50 AM
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Morning from NJ,
Keep in mind I'm pretty new at this.
Well my Marine Band is starting to sound funky so I'm going to be in the market for a new harp..
I was wondering if it would be worth my money to go with a seydel 1847 silver instead of another Marine Band?
This is something that I'm going to pursue and take seriously this year.
So is it worth the money? I get lots of mixed reviews. Good ole interweb ?? can't get a straight answer.. just want to make sure it's worth the coin.
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SuperBee
4115 posts
Sep 16, 2016
4:49 AM
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Yeah I think nobody can tell you that.
My story: I saw posts about the 1847 and I wondered if it would be worth the dough. Eventually I bought one and I was disappointed.
I've since repaired many of them and so I've played a bunch. Their owners love them; that is why they get me to repair them and I get good feedback on my work. But I'm not inclined to get any. Even at the same price as a marine band, I'd still choose the marine band. The one I own sits around unused.
I don't mean that the marine band is better and the 1847 isn't worth it.
I just mean it doesn't appeal to me. I like the marine band and I've never found anything better. But that's just my opinion.
After everyone gives you their opinions you still won't know what your opinion is, so you still have to spend the money and find out.
Also maybe if I could 'really' play I'd find the 1847 came into its own. But the way I play, I don't find any advantage in it.
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Killa_Hertz
1751 posts
Sep 16, 2016
5:07 AM
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Well I'm going to try to answer this the best I can.
It depends on alot of things.
First off, brands of harps are just like anything else. They are subjective. And they have their die hard fans. You'll Never see a Chevy guy Driving a Ford. Or visa versa. But that doesnt mean that they arent fine trucks.
Ok well let me say that if you dont Gap your harps or do any kind of internal work to them at all, Then no matter how much you spend on a harp ... the ootb playability is kind of a crap shoot. So what Im saying is ... Dont expect it to be the best harp you ve ever played OOTB just because it costs more.
I dont have the Silver, but I do have a Classic, a few Nobles and a Custom 1847 that I put together from brand new parts and a Blue Moon Comb. I have to say that I'm not really a fan of the heavy comb on the noble and I'm thinking about buying a few Classic Combs for them. The 1847 classic comb is fantastic.
I think they are GREAT harps. But I think alot of harps are great. I know I'm not giving you the definitive answer you wanted. lol.
Basically it's goin to boil down to taste and your financial situation. So if you would be more comfortable spending the money on a Manji or a Crossover, I would say go that route. But if its not going to break the bank ... I think you ll like it alot.
They are Bigger harps. Much bigger than a Marine Band. So if you have small hands or a small mouth ... It may not be for you.
Seydel Makes a quality product though. I also really like the Session Steel. Its one of my favorites. And its much cheaper, so maybe consider that.
Im trying to give you as much info as I can to make an informed decision. So ... I hope this helped.
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Killa_Hertz
1752 posts
Sep 16, 2016
5:37 AM
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I think BEE Said it pretty well. You gotta find out for yourself. I just wanted to let you know that just because it costs more doesn't mean it will play better.
Personally I really like the 1847 Classic comb. I could take or leave the other models, but that classic comb is very nice. If your going to get any of them .. I recommend the Classic.
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SuperBee
4116 posts
Sep 16, 2016
5:44 AM
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I think I do too. I have a silver and I like that comb but I don't care for the noble at-all. The seydel wooden combs have that shape which I like.
If they made them to fit marine band i probably would retrofit
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DEW
4 posts
Sep 16, 2016
5:47 AM
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To be honest I've only had the one harp super new to the game.. I'm just looking for longevity and something that is quality that will last me a good while..
Is is there a big difference between having a wooden comb over poly? Or steel reeds over brass? Are the marine band considered to be in the tight air seal class??
Either way I need to buy a new harp. Looking for a little nudge in the right direction..
That's for all the replies
Oh and I'm talking about the marine band with the nailed in cover plates
Last Edited by DEW on Sep 16, 2016 5:49 AM
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Ian
367 posts
Sep 16, 2016
8:37 AM
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I went through an expensive phase of buying 1847 classics and to be honest I don't really play them anymore.
I find that I get the response and sound that I want from marine bands, the original up to and including the crossover, my favourite being the deluxe.
The 1847 is a very good harmonica but I've found the reeds to be a little slower to respond than the Marine bands and the hole spacing is something that has never quite worked for me. If I go between the seydel and the hohner i find myself missing notes or fudging otherwise simple licks.
So, is it worth it? Worth being subjective.
I'd say no. But you will never know until you try one and now it's in your head id put money on you buying at least one seydel just to test the water!
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Killa_Hertz
1753 posts
Sep 16, 2016
8:53 AM
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Ian The Deluxe is one of my favorite harps. I dont like the crossover as much. I find that the Deluxe covers are just a little thinker feeling. I think it has to do with the pitch in the front being a little steeper. Im not sure, but they just feel so much better to me,
I actually just bought the last one to complete a full set. All fitted with Blue Moon Combs. I love em.
I dont have a problem with the hole spacing when switching back abd forth between Seydel(1847 ot Session Steel) and the Marine Band. But its funny that I DO have a problem playing the Special 20. I know the hole spacing is the same between the SP20 and the Marine Band, but somehow I'm fine on the MB and cant play for crap on the SP20. I recently changed all my SP20 combs to Rocket Combs. Now Im good.
DEW I recommend trying the Session Steel. It's a great harp. It is cheaper than the 1847. It has Steel Reeds and the wider hole spacing. If it gets dirty you can just wash it in the sink, which is something you can not do with wooden combs.
So I think it'll give you an idea about Seydels without costing as much. Personally I Love the Session Steel, but Ian and Bee do not. So you see how subjective it is. You really just have to jump in with both feet and find out. Lol. Sorry.
Another way you could go is Lee Oskar. There are lots of models out there and you will likely try them ALL eventually. So dont be so worried about which you trty next. Thats my advice.
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DEW
5 posts
Sep 16, 2016
9:20 AM
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Hey thanks guys! Think I'll give the session steel a shot.
Pretty sure I can get my hands on one of them at my local shop.
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