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MindTheGap
1570 posts
May 05, 2016
3:47 AM
Have a listen to this, if you can, try transposing it to a usable 2nd position key and slow it down.

It's all blue scale stuff, but different phrases from the stock blues-harp I've been studying. More emphasis on leaps rather than steps, less obsessive hitting the 4' every time you pass though the 4 hole.

I've slowed it down and it's all playable in 2nd position harp with bends. Rich pickings here.

Here's just one nice run from about 11s
2'' 2 3' 4+ 4 5, 6+ 4 6+

Even the opening phrases sets the tone
2 3' 4+ 4 5

B-flat Blues Soloing on Trumpet for Beginners https://youtu.be/RhdLzAeO29E

Maybe now I'll start hearing these phrases in blues harp songs. That would be interesting.

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Last Edited by MindTheGap on May 05, 2016 3:54 AM
Killa_Hertz
1284 posts
May 05, 2016
6:33 AM
VERY COOL!! I want to get my pedals Dialed in To sound like that .. Try to play some of this. You just gave me a whole other source of inspiration. Even Somewhat Simple stuff like that sounds Killer!

I still want to mess with the idea of setting up the right amount of delay to try to imitate a Horn section . Like 3 horns playing in Unison.

Good Stuff MTG
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timeistight
1996 posts
May 05, 2016
7:31 AM
"less obsessive hitting the 4' every time you pass though the 4 hole."

Actually no hitting the 4'; he's left that note (#4/b5) out of his blues scale, making it the minor pentatonic.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. In one of Jason Ricci's videos he recommends practicing the minor pentatonic over blues changes.
MindTheGap
1572 posts
May 05, 2016
8:37 AM
Ah yes, no 4' at all on this. He does lay that out at the start. Yes I've seen that Jason Ricci vid too - the one where he talks about breaking out of habits? Not necessarily bad habits.

Aside from the particular scale used here, the other thing for me is the single-note vibe. You can play some interesting blues without relying only on harpish tricks.

In that sense, the 2nd position, harp is like any conventional single-note instrument. At least at the low end. I like it.

Last Edited by MindTheGap on May 05, 2016 8:41 AM
MindTheGap
1573 posts
May 05, 2016
11:39 PM
This one is a cornet, playing in F. I guess it's a developing player. In the middle he does chromatic runs, it's a little tricky to pick them out but things like...

1 2+ 2'' 2' 2 3'' 3' 3 4+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtoEVvQq78
MindTheGap
1574 posts
May 06, 2016
12:00 AM
Here's the kind of phrase I'm deriving from this, a chromatic run with each note articulated, add a bit of syncopation and harpish tricks.

Mirco
408 posts
May 12, 2016
10:46 AM
I attended a workshop with Jason where he explained his preference for the minor pentatonic instead of the blues scale.
He reasons that there are enough bluesy notes in the pentatonic to add tension that you don't need that 4' (or the 1'). If you break the habit of playing it all the time, you'll make it more powerful when you choose to play it.
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Killa_Hertz
1330 posts
May 12, 2016
11:03 AM
I just purchased a few harp songbooks. One of which has Basslines, gist rugs, and horn lines broken down in it from a few great blues songs. I'm hype to check it out.
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MindTheGap
1601 posts
May 13, 2016
3:24 AM
Mirco - yes I've seen that in one of his videos. I can see the point exactly. Constant hammering of those blue notes reduces the impact. Listening to Walter Horton as I have a lot just recently makes me realise how much he plays, for instance, 2B rather than 2''

kHz - 'gist rugs'?
Killa_Hertz
1343 posts
May 13, 2016
3:53 AM
"Guitar Licks" sorry. My damn phone. I have to proofread everything i type. Sometimes I'm in a rush.

2Blow. I use 2 blow a goog bit. SBW II users it quite a bit too i think.
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MindTheGap
1602 posts
May 13, 2016
4:08 AM
Ah :) I thought it was some more slang I was out of touch with. All the kids are into gist rugs.
Killa_Hertz
1346 posts
May 13, 2016
5:41 AM
Lmao ... right ... you never know these days.

Im really hype to check out this book. Ive been trying to buckle down and put some real work in. On my 3rd position, theory, and etc.

I think learning more bass lines will really help expand my playing.

As i said the book comes with quite a few songs and breaks down the harp parts, bass lines, horn lines , guitar parts ... all transcribed to harp ( i think ) But either way I know it gives the bass lines in harp notation. Surely the horn parts will be easy enough to convert to harp if not.

This is one of the books I bought. I always buy my books used from amazon. I think I paid $3.50 for it.

Bass Lines and Guitar Riffs For Harp


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Killa_Hertz
1347 posts
May 13, 2016
5:51 AM
I also bought this one. For about the same price. It looks like it should be pretty good. Alot of people recommended it. No Bass Lines, but.....

Blues Harmonica Collection




The point is there are probably some book out there that focus on horn line for harmonica. Or if not you could maybe find a Blues Horn Songbook and transcribe them. If you get some basic general blues horn lines to build from it would be a great start.

And the books are SO CHEAP used. Cant go wrong.
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