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Arnoud73
41 posts
Jan 05, 2011
12:25 AM
In Europe I could always buy my single reeds at harponline, but it doesn't exist anymore....

How do you get your reeds ?

It's easy to buy good tools for reed replacement, but isn't it strange that single reeds are hard to get ??

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nacoran
3566 posts
Jan 05, 2011
12:42 AM
I just sent an email to HohnerUSA asking for any information on where individual reeds can be acquired around the world. (Arnoud, you were at least the second person just today asking!) If I get ambitious I may do the same for some of the other companies. In the meantime, if anyone has any info, please let us know.

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Arnoud73
42 posts
Jan 05, 2011
2:16 AM
Yeah, I know.
I think this subject needs it's own topic.

I got the feeling that the big harmonica companys are afraid that people stop bying harmonica's if everybody knows how to repair your broken harp for just 50 cents...
I think it's a shame that people have to buy a new harp, ore for almost the same price a set of reedplates, if only the 4 ore 5 draw brokedown...
It's like buying a new guitar when you break a string...
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Last Edited by on Jan 05, 2011 2:17 AM
tookatooka
2030 posts
Jan 05, 2011
2:26 AM
Yeah! I' be interested in terms of the UK too. I want some new SP20 Coverplates but not sure where to go now.
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jim
637 posts
Jan 05, 2011
3:12 AM
Since you'll have to tune it -it will not cost you 50cents.

I get replacement reeds from seydel whenever I need them. Try spamming hohner's mailbox. I mean like all together. Like the whole forum. Maybe they will listen.
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Arnoud73
43 posts
Jan 05, 2011
3:56 AM
At harponline a got 5 reeds for 2,50 euro...
Oke to place and tune themcosts some time, but no money, only once for buying the right tools......

I don't think spamming hohner will help.
If nobody but some hohner-endorsers get single reeds, I'll just friendly ask hohner by mail.
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Last Edited by on Jan 05, 2011 3:57 AM
GermanHarpist
1935 posts
Jan 05, 2011
4:11 AM
/Try spamming hohner's mailbox. I mean like all together. Like the whole forum./

jim, is this official seydel policy? :)

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jim
638 posts
Jan 05, 2011
5:21 AM
:D
It's just the same as for software development. The more people ask for it, the higher the chances that it's implemented.
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Arnoud73
44 posts
Jan 05, 2011
5:29 AM
so how do you get your seydel stimmzungen ?
and would you have permission to sell them ?

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jim
639 posts
Jan 05, 2011
5:53 AM
In fact - they sell them:

LINK

Since I do repairs on harmonicas - I just ask for reeds I don't have. Or use "donors" when available.

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Arnoud73
45 posts
Jan 05, 2011
6:08 AM
wow jim,

thanx for this link.
I really didn't know !!
I have several beautifull Solist pro's !

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HarpNinja
925 posts
Jan 05, 2011
6:36 AM
My understanding is that anyone can contact Hohner and order single reeds down to the specific reed used for that harp/reed slot.

I am pretty sure I learned this through this forum, actually. Aren't they also selling replacement reed plates for the Special 20 now as well?

Coincidentally, I went to Harponline on Sunday and saw that they must have been "bought out". I would suggest calling Hohner's service department and asking about single reeds and coverplates. IME, I have better luck calling companies than emailing.

If you're in the US and looking to replace the reeds like suggested via Harponline, our very own Harpwrench was so kind as to post on Harp-L where the parts could be ordered....http://harp-l.org/pipermail/harp-l/2010-June/msg00543.html

You can also replace reeds in similar fashion using parts from Micro-Mark. Kinya Pollard does that...I have the pdf saved from harmonicasessions.com, but I don't have the link handy.

IMO, I think Hohner very much wants to help harp players, even those wanting to customize and fix harps rather than buy more new ones. The niche for that is so small compared to other areas that the information isn't always in your face. Try calling and asking. I have found them to be very upfront and honest about issues like this. In fact, there was a lengthy post recently reposted on Harp-l about Sp 20 replacement plates that included a list of shipping costs for different amounts of plates.

I am sure most harmonica companies love phone calls from people who actually get what is going on...it is probably refreshing to talk to players/techie types who want to work with their instruments.

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Last Edited by on Jan 05, 2011 6:41 AM
sorin
232 posts
Jan 05, 2011
6:40 AM
It's very easy to get reeds or any other parts for that matter from Hohner , just call them . Last time I have ordered they charged $2/reed .
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sorin
233 posts
Jan 05, 2011
7:57 AM
oh, and have fun with the 00-90 bolts
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HarveyHarp
170 posts
Jan 05, 2011
8:05 AM
Sorin is right. Just call Hohner at
(804) 515-1900 Ask for the parts department. The sell individual reeds for the Hand made produce (MN, GM Sp 20) for $2.00 each. Please note that they are not the reeds that they use now, but an older variety. That is actually a good thing, which I will not go into now.





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Arnoud73
46 posts
Jan 05, 2011
8:20 AM
Thanx guys for the information !!!
I'll make a call when I'm out off stock...
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MP
1228 posts
Jan 05, 2011
10:57 AM
-"oh, and have fun with the 00-90 bolts"

i thought they were awfully small. now that you have indicated the size, they seem even smaller somehow. i hope i don't lose more of them.

did you know that the average reed is one two hundreth of an inch thick?---------
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isaacullah
1327 posts
Jan 05, 2011
11:44 AM
Just a note about the options for buying parts from the Seydel website: If one wants to buy individual reeds, one can only buy ALL the reeds for a certain key of harp, not a single individual reed. The reeds are meant to fit the Session and the Favorite, but it is unclear if they will fit the Soloist Pro (they might, have a look at the info below). They likely will NOT fit the Soloist. What's more is that the price for a set of individual reeds (10 reeds) is $19.95, and the price for buying replacement reedplates for a Session is also $19.95. Session reedplates are the cheapest replacement reedplates offered by Seydel. Soloist Pro replacement reedplates are more expensive, priced at $24.95, and Favorite reedplates are $29.95. They DO have something that they call a "Rawplate" for the Soloist Pro for $19.95, and I might assume that this is an *untuned* set of reedplates, but there is no specific information listed on the website as to what Rawplates actually are.

Moreover, this information was provided here on the forum by Dave Payne when he still was a Seydel dealer:

"Here's the breakdown on Seydels:

Family 1: all coverplates, reedplates combs interchangeable, Favorite, Favorite Black, 1847, 1847 Silver, Solist Pro,

Family 2: all coverplates, reedplates, combs interchangeable, Session, 1847 Silver Plus.

On Family 1 and Family 2, coverplates are interchangeable.

Black sheep of the family: Solist, interchanges with nothing made today, but reeds are interchangeable with prewar Bandmasters. "

This means that the Session reedplates will NOT fit a Soloist Pro. However, as the website mentions that the set of individual reeds fits BOTH the Session AND the Favorite, it stands to reason that they ought to fit the Soloist Pro as well. I cannot confirm this.

Regardless, if one chooses to use the Seydel website, it seems that on CANNOT actually buy single individual reeds. One might be able to do so by calling Seydel USA (Rupert Oysler), but this idea is NOT listed on the website at all.

FWIW, I have two Soloist Pro's with busted reeds just languishing in my repair box until I have the time and money to source and purchase individual Seydel reeds, and the screws I need to affix them. I already have the tools to remove reed rivets and to drill out the needed holes.
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jim
646 posts
Jan 05, 2011
11:50 AM
Favorite reedplates will NOT fit the SOLIST. They will fit the solist PRO!
if you just need a reed or two - drop me an email.

(edit - mixed up two models, 1:22 AM here...)
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Last Edited by on Jan 05, 2011 3:22 PM
harpwrench
411 posts
Jan 05, 2011
12:01 PM
I read on harponline's blog that they will continue to sell spare reeds, you might check into that further if you live in Europe.
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nacoran
3571 posts
Jan 05, 2011
12:08 PM
Isaac, useful information. It got me thinking, we could use a master set of chart for all the companies and what parts are interchangeable, with footnotes for where to buy them.

I actually want a 1847 with a long body cover.

For what it's worth, every black plastic comb I've tried from Hohner,- Blues Band, Pocket Pal, SP20, Piedmont, all seem to be interchangeable, although I haven't checked to see if there is a difference for lower or higher keys.

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jim
647 posts
Jan 05, 2011
12:11 PM
nacoran, I have one:
look at the pics
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nacoran
3572 posts
Jan 05, 2011
12:42 PM
That's a pretty harp!

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jim
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Jan 05, 2011
1:21 PM
I mean if you need it, I can send it to you. Drop me an email if that's what you needed.
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isaacullah
1328 posts
Jan 05, 2011
3:13 PM
@ Jim: "Session reedplates ... will fit the solist PRO!"

This is good to know. Just to clarify further: I believe Dave Payne separated Session and 1847 Silver + as "Family 2" because they are the two models of Seydel harps that have recessed plastic combs (like a Spec 20). Such harps lack a "groove" at the front of the reedplates to hold the front edge of the coverplate. They don't need this because the plates are recessed into the comb, and the lip of the comb is what holds the front edge of the coverplates in.

On the other hand, "Family 1" harps are all "sandwich" style harps (like a Marine Band"), and so they all have the "groove" that is characteristic of sandwich style harps.

Now, it is perfectly possible to use the non-grooved reedplates of a recessed style comb on a sandwich style harp (I have a harp I made that uses Spec 20 reedplates on a Blues Harp comb), but you have to be SURE that the screw holes are all in the right positions. This is because the plates are positioned differently in relation to the front of the comb between the two types of harp. Also, the comb dimensions need not be the same. In the Hohner Handmades, you have to re-drill the plates and/or combs to make them match up. Once the holes are lined up, you also have to be VERY careful when you reassemble the harp as there is nothing to catch the front of the coverplates and hold them in place while you screw it together. You can easily have the coverplates be misaligned (at a wonky angle), or have them hang over the front of the reedplates, exposing their sharp edges to your tongue when playing TB'ed. While this is not an insurmountable problem, it is nice to use sandwich style reedplates (with a groove) when making a sandwich style harp.

Now I'm also curious to know if you have actually successfully mated Session reedplates to Soloist Pro combs? Or is it just that the measurements seem like they would fit? Actually, if anybody out there has both Sessions and Soloist Pro's lying around, I'd like to know if they really do fit together well (e.g., better then between the Hohner Handmades).

Also, Jim, I may hit you up for some Seydel reeds in the future, but probably I'll try to deal with Seydel USA first, since it would be a bit easier to do a domestic transaction.

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jim
649 posts
Jan 05, 2011
3:21 PM
sorry sorry - I mean FAVORITE reedplates of course.
session reedplates will surely fit too, but it won't be very comfortable to play.
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jim
650 posts
Jan 05, 2011
3:24 PM
if you mean the screw holes etc - they fit perfectly. The session reedplates are juust a bit smaller and there's no groove on the front so attaching covers would be tricky.
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isaacullah
1330 posts
Jan 05, 2011
3:47 PM
Jim, that's exactly what I thought. Thanks!

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