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Music theory- Scales and Modes
Music theory- Scales and Modes
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NewZealand18
24 posts
Jun 04, 2010
4:42 PM
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I thought I would start a thread where everyone could share their knowledge of scales. Including scales and modes from other genres such as arabic, jazz, European etc.
If you can try and state what position the scales are from and if you have any uncommon scales/modes then give examples of songs etc that use them.
Heres my knowledge so far...
Dorian Minor Scale:1 2+ 2 full 2 3 full 3 4+ 4
Melodic Minor 2 3 full 3 half 4+ 4 4 overblow 5 6
I Chord Major Triad 2 3 4
IV Chord Major Triad 1+ 2+ 3+/2
V Chord Major Triad 1 2 half 3 full
Egyptian Minor scale 2 3 full 3 4+ 4 4overblow 6+
Dorian Mode 2 3 full 3 4+ 4 5+ 6+
Major Scale 1st position 1+ 1 2+ 2 full 2 3 full 3 4+
Major Scale 2nd position 2 3 full 3 4+ 4 5+ 5 overblow 6+
Major Scale 3rd position 1 2+ 2 half 2 3 full 3 4+ 4
Pentatonic Scale 1st position 4+ 4 overblow 5 6+ 6 overblow 7
Pentatonic Scale 2nd position 2 3 half 4+ 4 5 6+
Pentatonic Scale 3rd position 4 5 6+ 6 7+ 8
Blues Scale 1st position 4+ 4 overblow 5 5 overblow 6+ 6 overblow 7
Blues Scale 2nd position 2 3 half 4+ 4 full 4 5 6+
Blues Scale 3rd position 4 5 6+ 6 full 6 7+ 8
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GermanHarpist
1515 posts
Jun 04, 2010
7:07 PM
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I actually designed a chart that shows you a whole bunch scales in every position for a majority of tunings. It's linked in my profile description.
All you need is projector sheets and a printer.
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YT - Music isn't created... it's evolved.
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isaacullah
990 posts
Jun 04, 2010
8:39 PM
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GH, I had never thought of printing your charts off on overhead sheets! I've even got some siting on my shelf. Duh! Guess which documents *this guy* is going to be printing later tonight! :p
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markdc70
30 posts
Jun 05, 2010
6:39 AM
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I may be wrong, but I think your pentatonic scales in 1st and 2nd are wrong. I learned them as: 1st: 4+, 4, 5+, 6+, 6, 7+ and 2nd: 2, 3(whole), 3, 4, 5+, 6+.
Last Edited by on Jun 05, 2010 6:40 AM
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GermanHarpist
1516 posts
Jun 05, 2010
6:49 AM
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markdc, that depends on which pentatonic scale you use... :) You have the major, NewZealand the minor and there are others... :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentatonic_scale:
"A pentatonic scale is a musical scale with five pitches per octave in contrast to a heptatonic (seven note) scale such as the major scale. Pentatonic scales are very common and are found all over the world, including Celtic folk music, Hungarian folk music, West African music, African-American spirituals, American folk music, Jazz, American blues music and rock music, Sami joik singing, children's songs, the music of ancient Greece[2][3] and the Greek traditional music and songs from Epirus, Northwest Greece and the music of Southern Albania, the tuning of the Ethiopian krar and the Indonesian gamelan, Philippine Kulintang, melodies of Korea, Malaysia, Japan, China, India and Vietnam (including the folk music of these countries), the Andean music, the Afro-Caribbean tradition, Polish highlanders from the Tatra Mountains, and Western Classical composers such as French composer Claude Debussy. The pentatonic scale is also used on the Great Highland Bagpipe."
.... etc. :)
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YT - Music isn't created... it's evolved.
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GermanHarpist
1517 posts
Jun 05, 2010
6:58 AM
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isaac, haha lol. tell me what you think of it once you've used it a bit. And if you have some questions... I'd by glad to help (you and everybody else :).
The thing is.... it's really only a crutch for the beginning... and to experiment with different scales etc... once you know what you're going for it's better to learn the intervals and 'think' the scales.
And to be fair I should also mention that there are, I think, two online scripts that do pretty much the same thing.
The only advantage that I see with my chart is that you actually see the layout of the harp. Which makes it easier to shift the scale around to find the best position. However, in case there's no overhead sheets at hand visit this site:
http://www.harptools.de/siteht/tabulature/ScaleTabulature.aspx?preSet=true&keyIndex=2
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YT - Music isn't created... it's evolved.
Last Edited by on Jun 05, 2010 7:00 AM
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harpdude61
190 posts
Jun 05, 2010
9:30 AM
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This is the best chart I have found. You can learn any scale in any position in any mode and with various harp tunings. It takes a few minutes to figure it out but well worth the time.
http://www.overblow.com/?menuid=26#
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DesertDog
27 posts
Jun 05, 2010
7:19 PM
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Here's a website with some exotic scales:
http://www.patmissin.com/articles/AHN2.html
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