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I made a discovery
I made a discovery
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Gnarly
2601 posts
Dec 19, 2018
12:08 AM
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. . . and here it is.
I am using several tunings that share a certain pattern.
It can be found on the Lee Oskar Melody Maker, and so also on the Tony Eyers Major Cross, but is part of Spiral tuning too!
It's actually the Power Chromatic tuning--
| A b | C d | E F# | G a |
So my new task is to recognize its presence and be aware of the parts of my various tunings that AREN'T that pattern.
And the main reason I use different tunings (for example, besides straight Power Chromatic), is for the chords.
I just sent my TurboSlide back to Jim Antaki, the slide mechanism had fractured. That's a good sign, it means I have been using it!
That harp is tuned circular on the bottom, like Major Cross, but Power Chromatic on top.
Here 'tis . . .
|D e | F# g | A b | C d | E f# | G a | A b | C d | E f# | G a |
I need to tune another harp just like this so I have one to practise with while the TurboSlide is being repaired. Of course, that unit lets me bend the blow notes with the magnets, so I won't have that, but still, it's worth having a unit to practice with to work on the tuning.
Last Edited by Gnarly on Dec 19, 2018 12:19 AM
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Gnarly
2603 posts
Dec 20, 2018
11:25 AM
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OK, nobody cares . . .
Here's the deal about the Power Chromatic tuning, there are draw bends on all those holes--
Am Dorian, half step bends, only Eb needs to be overblown to complete a chromatic scale.
The chords are the verse to Moondance.
It's plain, from my investigation, that I find that group of notes useful--just like Richter, it has some huge advantages for certain things.
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Crawforde
180 posts
Dec 20, 2018
11:38 AM
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Some of us care, just didn’t have anything to add. I’ve never used a Power Chromatic , maybe I’ll retune a harmonica to try it out.
Your posts are always interesting and thought provoking.
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nacoran
10019 posts
Dec 20, 2018
11:40 AM
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I keep thinking it would be really useful to have something like Harpninja with a setting where you could create simulated tunings and have it draw from sound samples so you could play around and demonstrate tuning ideas more concretely without taking apart harps in the early stages.
I have to really sit and concentrate to figure out what is going on when I see a new tuning layout. Even when I've played with ideas myself I've had to approach them more from the theory side than the ear side of things.
I think it's cool that you are seeing patterns repeat. I've got a Turboslide. I like playing on it but I've never really got inside it beyond just a quick look. Have you ever tried adjusting things with the magnets? Is that even possible?
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Gnarly
2605 posts
Dec 20, 2018
10:56 PM
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Hello world,
Thank goodness you're here!
I've not had any company in this dank and dismal cell for forty long and miserable years.
Yes, I have adjusted the magnets, it was Major Cross when I sent it to Jim (he has already fixed it and is sending it back, should be here next week), but now is Power Chromatic on top.
I wish Overblow.com was back up, that was useful.
I think the Lekholm 48 would be good for the kind of experimentation you are suggesting.
"I have to really sit and concentrate to figure out what is going on when I see a new tuning layout. "
That's what I mean, I have been using these tunings for years and never drew the connection, that they are using parts of the Power Chromatic tuning!
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Komuso
796 posts
Dec 21, 2018
4:29 AM
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"I keep thinking it would be really useful to have something like Harpninja with a setting where you could create simulated tunings and have it draw from sound samples so you could play around and demonstrate tuning ideas more concretely without taking apart harps in the early stages."
Good idea!
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Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa
HarpNinja - Learn Harmonica Faster
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robbert
489 posts
Dec 21, 2018
5:26 AM
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I wholeheartedly support the exploration of alt tunings and various harp innovations. It’s exciting to see the directions that these innovations take the instrument.
I’m commited to Richter tuning, and standard tuning on chromatic and advancing my skill in that direction at this time, and this seems to enable me to make more than enough music effectively.
However, one day, when I have more bandwidth available, I would like to see where some of these innovations could take me musically.
Right now, due to another thread on the forum addressing 5th position, I have just got that under my belt, which is pretty satisfying.
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nowmon
196 posts
Dec 27, 2018
7:00 AM
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You know what knocks me out and alota-lot people in the club.Some harp player,who ,on a regular Marine Band,is gut-bucket honking on that harp, like James Cotton or other Cat that mostly stays in 2nd pos. I`ve been playing since `68 ,and play 3rd pos. and chromatic harp, BUT,a plain cheap MB, in 2nd pos. can`t be beat. All the creators of the style prove it.....
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Gnarly
2612 posts
Dec 27, 2018
8:22 PM
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Yes, there is a certain native charm to gut-bucket honking.
I don't think that is made easier with the tuning I spoke of--where all the bends are half step.
One of the interesting things about the TurboSlide is the ability to increase the size of the draw bend, since the slide lowers the blow note.
The new build of the TurboSlide is nice, it's much improved. He also didn't charge me for the upgrade.
I use Richter, but can't limit myself to that arrangement of tones.
For me, it's about the tune. If you can do it with a standard tuned diatonic, there ya go. Otherwise, let's figure out what works.
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