ME.HarpDoc
311 posts
May 15, 2018
5:49 PM
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I'm looking at adding a quilter combo amp to my stable. For those of you playing Quilter combo amps (not just an amp head with your own cab), what are your suggestions? Aviator series vs. Micro Pro Mach 2? I see the Aviator Gold 12 is the only cab with an open back. The other Aviator his closed back with an 8" speaker.The Micro Pro series are all close back in 8", 10" and 12" versions.
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Tblues1
93 posts
May 16, 2018
6:39 AM
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I have a Micro Pro Mach2 12 inch HD.
Nice , small size and light weight, sounds great.
I think the Aviator 12 and 2x10 are a slightly bigger cabinet.
I had considered the Aviator, but settled on the Micro Pro, essentially for the smaller overall size.
They are basically the same amp.
Micro Pro has voicing options that the Aviator doesn't have, but I don't use most of them.
I use the "Full Q" or "Tweed" settings.
Aviator would be the "Full Q" voicing, so to speak.
Aviator cabs have the option of installing their tilt back legs, if you want.
Open Back or Closed back would be a matter of preference. Not a huge difference. I don't really care which. My tube amp is Open Back, however, It just came that way.
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ME.HarpDoc
312 posts
May 17, 2018
5:59 PM
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Tblues1
Did you try the 8" or 10" models? Have you heard anyone play them? Impressions?
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Elcoh
23 posts
May 17, 2018
6:56 PM
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I just listened to a harpsucker Youtube of the Micro Pro. How can a Solid State get tone like that?! I never even heard of a Quilter.
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Tblues1
94 posts
May 17, 2018
8:34 PM
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Did not try 8 or 10.
No reason to use the 8 if the 12 sounds good.
Figured the 12 would have a fatter low end with a little more punch, maybe.
The 2x10 Aviator, by the way, is open back.
Only heard videos of the 8.
Not a perfect way to judge.
Glad I got the 12HD instead of the 8.
There are some online places that have a trial period, if you are not sure.
You are the one who has to make the decision.
Nothing wrong with the 12 inch.
A matter of preference.
Last Edited by Tblues1 on May 17, 2018 8:35 PM
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barbequebob
3509 posts
May 18, 2018
8:07 AM
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I had an email conversation with Pat Quilter and he told me that the most popular size of the Quilter Micro Pro amps for both the early and Mach II versions for BOTH harp and guitar were the ones with the 8" speaker. From most reports out there, anything larger than that speaker tends to be too harsh for harp and you may want to change the speaker to something like maybe a Jensen Tornado. I personally am not fond of 8's on a gig because they usually get swallowed up in the mix and don't have enough bottom end but because of the enclosed cabinet setup, there's much more bottom end coming out of them.
With a tube amp in the combo form (meaning no separate speaker cabinet), it's a necessity to have an open back because with an enclosed cabinet setup for those, the heat given off by tube amps would wind up burning the speaker cones, plus the open back spreads the sound out more.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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ME.HarpDoc
313 posts
May 18, 2018
2:22 PM
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I A/B demo’d a Quilter Micro Pro amp in both the 8” and 10” versions today. I found the 10” was significantly warmer and better bottom end than the 8”. Settings were the same on both amps (I used the Tweed setting based on another post that Bob had commented on). I suspect that playing around with the settings on the 8 could possibly match the sound of the 10, but at these settings (gain 9 o’clock, boost 12, base 3 o’clock, mid 10 o’clock, treb 7 o’clock -almost off-, and mic Bulletini into mic input-I found plugging in to guitar input gave feedback earlier) the 10 was noticeably smoother, deeper bottom end and also better sound, to me, on the high end of the harp. I was also in a sound room so volume was not very high but with ss circuitry tone should remain about the same. Really does have tube like sound. I bought the 10. I’ll share my impressions after I’ve played a while and with stage band loudness.
Thanks to all on the forum for this post as well as earlier posts on the subject.
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Tblues1
95 posts
May 18, 2018
4:11 PM
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Congrats on the purchase.
Not surprised at all about your findings.
I forgot to mention, you can make the guitar input less sensitive by using a Lone Wolf Mojo Pad.. Don’t have to but you won’t have to be as cautious.
It won’t make the amp louder but it will make it slightly less sensitive.
I use the deluxe on the 10db setting with a Shure CR, it should work fine for the Bulletini as I find it to have slightly less output than the CR.
Full Q also sounds good.
The extesion cabs are also nice.
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ME.HarpDoc
314 posts
May 19, 2018
3:26 AM
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Thanks Tb. I have a Mojo Pad so I’ll experiment with that in the mix as well. BBQ Bob, I appreciate your input. I’ll let you know if the 10” speaker sounds too harsh (It’s a Celestion G10 Vintage). In the first 15 min of play it sounded good. Now for some extended tweaking time!
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Tblues1
96 posts
May 19, 2018
8:05 AM
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A point on the Mojo Pad,
If you are using the standard (-20db) Pad or the deluxe set on 20db,
You may find that it gets a little dark or muddy sounding and you may want dial back a little on the bass setting to suit.
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ME.HarpDoc
315 posts
May 19, 2018
3:28 PM
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So I’ve started dialing in my sound and the Micro Pro has a lot of options. Perhaps I can avoid reinventing the wheel by asking what settings you all prefer.
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ME.HarpDoc
316 posts
May 19, 2018
3:50 PM
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Tb1, I saw your settings in a previous post. Anyone else.
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9000
267 posts
May 20, 2018
8:19 PM
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Quilter 8 inch is not a guitar speaker. It is a pro audio speaker....think PA. Lots of bottom, cut and very wide dispersion with virtually no break-up a live gig volumes.
All the best,
Jay
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Music speaks where words fail.
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Elcoh
24 posts
May 24, 2018
12:00 PM
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I gave the Quilter Micro Pro amp a try at a Sam Ash store in NYC.Yes you can dial in alot of nice sounds but its really no different than playing thru a nice pedal to the PA.It's definitely much better than the sound of a modeling amp. That being said it is nowhere near the authentic sound of a nice vintage tube amp.
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barbequebob
3512 posts
May 25, 2018
7:51 AM
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I personally hate the modeling amps but the modeling pedals like the POD or the one Behringer makes sound better as a pedal thru something sonically neutral like a PA system or a keyboard amp but modeling amps like the Line 6 ones don't cut it at all.
On the Mojo Pad, the one you want to get that will compensate for what Tblues1 is talking about is the new Mojo Pad Deluxe.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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