mx
32 posts
Nov 19, 2017
11:57 AM
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hi all, if i play 2 draw, 3 draw whole step bend, 4 blow on a C harp i have notes G A C and if I play 6 blow,6 draw, 7 blow on a Lo C harp i have G A C . Is this not the same pitch ? what I would like too know is should the A note on the 3 bend C sound just like the 6 draw on the Lo C. mine doesn't
thanks MX
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The Iceman
3390 posts
Nov 19, 2017
1:15 PM
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You've stumbled on a great way to get to notes bent to exact pitch without using a visual reference (like a tuner).
Yes, the notes should match. Not EXACTLY in tone, but exactly in pitch if you nailed that 3 hole inhale second bend. The slight tone difference comes from a "given" note vs note "created through bend technique". In performance, though, this difference is almost negligible.
One way I work with beginner students on bend to exact pitch is to use a Low G harmonica along with a D harmonica. For that 3 hole inhale first bend on the D, one can compare it to the hole 5 inhale of the Low G - same pitch. I use this in the "Spoonful" exercise - getting the notes for "That Spoon that Spoon that Spoon-ful" melodic line. Create the notes on the Low G harmonica using holes inhale 4 and 5. Play it a few times, then pick up that D harmonica and match the pitches you just heard - using 2 hole inhale to 3 hole inhale first bend.
Alternate between these 2 harmonicas until you have it sounding the same.
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The Iceman
Last Edited by The Iceman on Nov 19, 2017 1:16 PM
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mx
33 posts
Nov 20, 2017
10:23 AM
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thank you
MX
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groyster1
3038 posts
Nov 20, 2017
4:36 PM
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whole step bend on 3 draw is the most difficult for me.....have reasonable success on half step and can always hit step an a half via korg tuner
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mx
36 posts
Nov 20, 2017
7:09 PM
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hi, i have been told i am flat so does that mean i am bending to far down.
mx
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DanP
359 posts
Nov 20, 2017
7:52 PM
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It depends on the context or situation. For example, on the 3rd hole, you have 3 bends between the 3 blow and the 3 hole natural draw. On a C harmonica for example, the first bend would be A-flat, the second bend would be A ( a whole step from G) and the 3rd bend would be B-flat, a step and a half from G. In that context, a flat note may be what you're going for. If you are going for a whole step bend, then it can mean you are either not bending far enough if you are hitting the A-flat or bending too far down if you are hitting the B-flat.
Last Edited by DanP on Nov 20, 2017 8:04 PM
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The Iceman
3396 posts
Nov 21, 2017
3:16 AM
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"hi, i have been told i am flat so does that mean i am bending to far down."
Yes
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The Iceman
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Spderyak
180 posts
Nov 21, 2017
12:41 PM
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I wanted to mention that I use the lo harp for the A note esp if I am playing with a vocalist note for note.
I can hit the A 3 bend fine when playing a solo or something like that but as soon as I'm doing a walk down with the vocals I'll reach for the low harp or a different key harp that has my notes unbent.
...also if you are with another instrument sometimes you will see people tune to each other, so they sound good together regardless of what may be technically perfect.
Hope that doesn't add any confusion.
another interesting example..the 2 draw and the 3 blow are the same note...but do they sound the same...yes...kinda..
Last Edited by Spderyak on Nov 21, 2017 12:43 PM
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groyster1
3039 posts
Nov 21, 2017
5:45 PM
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its exactly same sound.......defy anybody to tell the difference
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Spderyak
181 posts
Nov 28, 2017
4:54 AM
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I use the 'same difference' sometimes instead of drawing twice on the 2 I'll hit the draw 2 then the 3 blow..so I get the same note... only different...
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