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1847
4403 posts
Aug 28, 2017
5:27 PM
has anyone seen a line out like this? skip to 4:30

Last Edited by 1847 on Aug 29, 2017 7:58 AM
SuperBee
4909 posts
Aug 28, 2017
8:28 PM
This is a good game.
I can honestly say I haven't seen it
timeistight
2179 posts
Aug 29, 2017
7:42 AM
@1847: If you want us to look at a video, you'll need to post it somewhere public first.
1847
4404 posts
Aug 29, 2017
8:00 AM
it was there i can assure you. its not like things just disappear around here.
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SuperBee
4911 posts
Aug 29, 2017
1:38 PM
Ok, now I have seen it, but no I have not seen one like that. I assume the speaker is hardwired which is why it's been tapped at the OT, but it's kinda hard to say exactly what's going on based on that picture. And I have only had one sip of my coffee
1847
4406 posts
Aug 29, 2017
2:21 PM
the way i understand it. channel one is stock, input #2
is wired to the transformer " a separate transformer" that goes to another amp.would that be what we consider re-amping?

Last Edited by 1847 on Aug 29, 2017 2:34 PM
timeistight
2180 posts
Aug 29, 2017
2:33 PM
The way I heard was that input 2 was now an output, to avoid having to drill a hole in the chasis for the line out jack.

I think the line out is just a regular old padding down of the speaker signal that you see in many amps, e.g. Harp Gear, Memphis Mini, super Champ, etc.
timeistight
2181 posts
Aug 29, 2017
2:38 PM
"Re-amping" refers to taking a recording, feeding it through a colourful amplifier, and then re-recording that on its own track as an effect.
SuperBee
4912 posts
Aug 29, 2017
2:51 PM
I was gonna say 'gotcha', meaning I understand what you're saying. But then I realised that to many people 'gotcha' currently means 'I caught you in my trap of tricky questions'.
But I still mean the first thing.
And presumably there's another resistance across the contacts of the jack.
1847
4407 posts
Aug 29, 2017
3:26 PM
he said run a line out of #2 into the transformer then out from there to another amp.

i would think it would need a load... perhaps the transformer steps it down? he is sending the preamp out before the power section.

this looks interesting..
timeistight
2182 posts
Aug 29, 2017
7:19 PM
I think he was misinformed or perhaps misunderstood what he was told. It looks like it's coming off the output transformer.

The amp is now in Hong Kong, so unless the new owner chimes in we'll never know for sure.
1847
4409 posts
Aug 29, 2017
7:55 PM
what you are alluding to make's perfect sense. however when we were kids we tried
all kinds of stupid s%$#. i seem to remember some thing similar. ok i don't remember too well but check this out.... i'll be right back i'll need to find it. its funny i was discussing this with super mic tech
steve warner just the other day. be right back...
hvyj
3465 posts
Aug 29, 2017
7:59 PM
On ANY Fender amp that has 2 inputs on the same channel, without any rewiring, you can use one of them as an output that duplicates the signal going into the other input. If you run that output (from the second input) into another amp, it's called slaving or daisy chaining. I believe this can also be done with Marshalls.

Last Edited by hvyj on Aug 29, 2017 8:05 PM
1847
4410 posts
Aug 29, 2017
8:04 PM


ok here is something similar.
SuperBee
4914 posts
Aug 29, 2017
8:06 PM
that's what i thought too, at first. the guy seems pretty vague about it and i thought he just didnt know what he was talking about.
Then i noticed that transformer appears to be mounted on timber, so i guess its not the output transformer. so now i just don't know.
1847
4411 posts
Aug 29, 2017
8:27 PM
yep ...a separate transformer thats what is interesting. on the vintage 47
he is using a isolation transformer. for harmonica i am thinking a step down transformer so as to turn up the volume to increase the gain. so it won't start squealing so soon. the guy from vintage 47 is a stones throw from my place.sure would be nice to talk to him. "i probably have" LOL

Last Edited by 1847 on Aug 29, 2017 8:28 PM
SuperBee
4916 posts
Aug 29, 2017
8:43 PM
should point out i was replying to timeistight in previous post.
yeah hvyj i think that daisy chaining is different to what these guys are discussing. when you just run a line from the 2nd input you are just splitting the mic signal rather than any processing from the amp the mic is plugged into. these guys are definitely talking about a preamp situation implying the signal is tapped after its been through the champ preamp (at least)
SuperBee
4917 posts
Aug 29, 2017
8:47 PM
what a heavy conversation; combined 15000 posts worth of BS from just 4 contributors. we should have our own corner in the bar


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