sharpharp
23 posts
Jul 26, 2017
2:40 AM
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Hi people,
I have noticed this forum has contributions from modern day harmonica greats such as alex paclin jason Richie and of course godd parrot but no popper, what a shame I wonder what he is up to...
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JSalow
22 posts
Jul 26, 2017
8:22 AM
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John Popper has made it clear that he has no interest in being involved in the "harmonica community," especially message boards.
That isn't to be taken as in insult, it's just not what he is interested in. He has stated that he considers himself a musician, not a harmonicist, and that harmonica is just the instrument he uses, therefore he has no interest in communities based around one instrument.
Although I wish he would, there is much he could teach.
Last Edited by JSalow on Jul 26, 2017 8:23 AM
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the_happy_honker
271 posts
Jul 26, 2017
9:43 AM
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Teach, indeed! I've always wanted to learn how to slide up and down the harp while blowing or drawing.
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sharpharp
24 posts
Jul 26, 2017
9:49 AM
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Absolutely I agree, while the harp does not start and end with the guy I think he should be here, if he doesn't wanna teach fine but to fans of these guys the chance to say hi and maybe get a response means a massive deal so Feltham, popper and junco should pay attention...
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nacoran
9540 posts
Jul 26, 2017
1:02 PM
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I've never seen him post here, but I do remember actually processing his membership (it was from his web domain).
I guess we scared him off.
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sharpharp
25 posts
Jul 27, 2017
2:16 AM
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He could well have been scared off, it can take balls to stick it out here sometimes.....
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ted burke
578 posts
Jul 27, 2017
4:16 PM
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"it can take balls to stick it out here sometimes..."
More often it takes a thick hide and lots of free time.
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Tuckster
1625 posts
Jul 27, 2017
7:32 PM
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Good one,Ted! We have lots of pro players on the forum. Del Junco is a member,I believe. As for the pros not on here-They are too busy playing to read harp geek forums.The ones that like to teach may lurk here,but some of them just don't want to be bothered with the sometimes silly stuff we talk about.
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Blind Melon
82 posts
Jul 28, 2017
9:34 AM
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JSalow posted...
"That isn't to be taken as in insult, it's just not what he is interested in. He has stated that he considers himself a musician, not a harmonicist, and that harmonica is just the instrument he uses, therefore he has no interest in communities based around one instrument."
So what are his other instruments? A fork?
Last Edited by Blind Melon on Jul 31, 2017 9:25 AM
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Mirco
516 posts
Jul 28, 2017
9:42 AM
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Is that a fat joke?
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Honkin On Bobo
1446 posts
Jul 28, 2017
9:59 AM
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Well if it was, it was a pretty good one. The key is the word "the", if that word was "his", I think we'd know for sure.
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Tuckster
1633 posts
Jul 28, 2017
10:16 AM
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Duh, I missed the joke. Perhaps that's one reason he doesn't post here.
Harp players in general have a reputation among other musicians as not being very good musicians. There's a lot of truth in that. A lot of us play with "tunnel vision",ignoring the changes and just wailing away. If you want to gain respect from other musicians,you need to play the chord changes.
Last Edited by Tuckster on Jul 28, 2017 10:17 AM
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Blind Melon
83 posts
Jul 31, 2017
9:24 AM
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I apologize for my last post.
I have corrected the sentence structure.
Thank you.
Last Edited by Blind Melon on Jul 31, 2017 9:27 AM
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Littoral
1510 posts
Jul 31, 2017
9:39 AM
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Ok, but I still hear circus music.
Last Edited by Littoral on Jul 31, 2017 2:50 PM
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SuperBee
4850 posts
Jul 31, 2017
2:35 PM
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Really? An exceptional harp player who has a weight problem which he's undergone surgery to address is openly mocked on a harmonica forum of which he is a member.
That's a foul. Shitty work.
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1847
4345 posts
Jul 31, 2017
3:34 PM
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SUPE. once again you are right... i will delete my post.
john popper is cool.
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SuperBee
4852 posts
Jul 31, 2017
3:51 PM
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Hey Bob, I did not know about your link, but good on you.
It was the fork post and the applause for it I was dirty on. Especially since Nate has pointed out John is actually a member here, albeit a non-posting member.
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Honkin On Bobo
1451 posts
Jul 31, 2017
6:31 PM
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I'm assuming the "applause for it" line was aimed at me. So I'll respond. I don't care how "dirty" you are on anything, it was a funny line. It made me laugh. And by the way, if JSalow's post is accurate Popper was taking a giant dump on all of the harp nerds here who have passion for this instrument. "He considers himself a musician, not a harmonicst".
Give me a break. So what does that make all of the pros that do post here? Further, Nate said the "membership request came from his domain". Could have been anybody that works for him thinking it would "help the brand" by his being a member, even though as Nate admitted he has never posted. I don't think "we" scared him off at all (though i'm sure that was offered in humor), I think he views this site exactly just as JSalow said. I loved the "this isn't an insult" qualiifier. That's exactly what it is. We're all "harmonicists" not musicians. Does that make every excellent guitar player a guitarist, not a musician? Hey, he can avoid this site that's cool, i get that, but the affront at Blind Melon's excellent rejoinder/joke? Get a sense of humor.
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SuperBee
4853 posts
Jul 31, 2017
7:03 PM
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Yeah, if we were at your place, and you want to mock your fellow guests, that's your business. You're a guest here.
The 'joke' is not cool. Whatever John said elsewhere he didn't say it here.
If this is the sort of conversation Adam wants to encourage on his forum, that's ok. It's his business.
If that's the case, I won't be associating with the forum.
I don't believe it is acceptable however. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see
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Goldbrick
1852 posts
Aug 01, 2017
4:04 AM
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C-mon guys-why do you want to table a discussion cause somebody forked up. it may be a little hard to swallow but its not the last straw. are you hip ?
I dont think blues players have much of a pc history
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SuperBee
4854 posts
Aug 01, 2017
4:24 AM
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Not much to do with PC or blues players. More to do with common decency and forum rules.
The guy is a member here, that makes him one of us. We're all guests. Yeah, he's not active on the forum. Doesn't matter. If someone can have posts deleted which suggest another member has mental health problems and needs to get treatment, seems to me that mocking a member about his weight/eating disorder is also out of line.
And this is an Internet forum hosted by Adam Gussow. They're his rules.
"... do not flame, insult, or otherwise impugn the looks, parentage, intelligence, or talents of your fellow board members ..."
I try to respect them. Most of us do. Some think they don't have to.
Maybe they're right. I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.
Last Edited by SuperBee on Aug 01, 2017 4:28 AM
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hot4blues
69 posts
Aug 01, 2017
7:36 AM
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Speaking of John Popper, I remember him being in a promotional video for Fender harps. He said he liked the way they play. What caught my interest is he stated that the Fender played better than the harps he was using in the past. The only harps I know Mr. Popper plays are SP20s. He never mentioned the brand. However, the Fender he was playing was in actuality a Lee Oskar with Fender putting their design on the cover plates. What John Popper plays is his preference. I just wanted to mention what was on my mind for awhile.
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1847
4347 posts
Aug 01, 2017
7:46 AM
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john plays seydel harmonicas.
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Tommy the Hat
670 posts
Aug 01, 2017
8:05 AM
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According to Wikipedia:
"John Popper has expressed a preference for the Hohner Special 20 brand blues harp, calling them "the Porsche of harmonicas."[50] Since 2015 he uses mainly his own signature harmonicas manufactured by Fender. Popper uses Shure microphones and Mesa Boogie amplifiers, similar to bandmate Chan Kinchla. He also uses D'Addario strings."
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1847
4349 posts
Aug 01, 2017
8:57 AM
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here is the fender john popper model. it is made by seydel. notice my name 1847
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nacoran
9548 posts
Aug 01, 2017
10:03 AM
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Superbee, well said.
Honkin, he's right. Popper is forum member. He gets the protection of the forum creed. (Which, is really, just common decency). Also, for clarification, the name he used to register was John Popper. I only took note of the email domain because when someone famous registers I like to double check to make sure they are who they say they are, and I'm not sure if he ever posted. I didn't see a post, but I don't read everything.
I'm glad Popper managed to lose the weight. That's something I struggle with myself. It's possible for a joke to be offensive/violate the forum rules and still get a chuckle. (My friends and I can be pretty brutal with the jokes back and forth, but that's a different situation. When you know someone personally and it's a constant give and take of jokes that's different).
As for preferring 'musician' to 'harmonicist' who cares? He's lead a band for years. He may be more concerned about how to arrange a song for multiple instruments. He may be making public comments to raise the stature of the harmonica. We all know it's a pretty common trope on our own forum that we get no respect.
Anyway, good job Superbee. :)
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Honkin On Bobo
1452 posts
Aug 01, 2017
10:40 AM
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Well, that's settles it. Sorry Melon. The joke has been officially unapproved by the Ministry of Humor. I will now go to the penalty box. Sit for two minute. Feel shame.
SuperBee, congrats. Take two Marine Bands outta petty inventory.
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Blind Melon
85 posts
Aug 01, 2017
4:01 PM
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To all who I offended, it was not my intention. I have a different (weird?) sense of humor that not everyone appreciates. I am very self deprecating and forget others might not get me.
To John and anyone else that I offended, I apologize for my comments.
Last Edited by Blind Melon on Aug 01, 2017 4:02 PM
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Blind Melon
86 posts
Aug 01, 2017
4:11 PM
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From now on, I will be more sensitive to what I write.
I will no longer describe the tone of any harmonica players as "fat" but will describe it in the future as "weight challenged" or a "heavy" sound.
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Rontana
425 posts
Aug 01, 2017
6:20 PM
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Blind Melon . . .
I've been snickering ever since the original "fork" comment. Alas, we do live in sensitive times.
Hell, I write for a living (and have for 35 years). Mildly satiric and/or sarcastic copy that I got paid for just a decade ago would get me fired now.
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nacoran
9550 posts
Aug 01, 2017
9:08 PM
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Rontana, think of it this way... forum posts are one part 'article' and one part 'comments section'. Most publications played around with the idea of unmoderated comment sections and then decided they needed some sort of moderation or things come off the track.
For what it's worth, as a heavy guy, I didn't take offence at the joke, but I don't speak for all heavy guys. As an admin the problem with the joke is it's clearly a violation of the creed.
Honkin, there is a difference between saying a comment crosses the line and putting anyone in the penalty box. I would have let Superbee's comments take care of it, but since there was some push back I felt I had to put my admin hat on. I know you don't like the rules, but you know them by now. If you really want to argue the rules that's something you have to take up with Adam, not me.
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sharpharp
29 posts
Aug 02, 2017
12:44 AM
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I'm not gonna mention john popper again..
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kudzurunner
6318 posts
Aug 02, 2017
3:54 AM
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I'm locking this thread. Sharpharp's OP wasn't the problem; the problem was, and is, that the thread contains very little in the way of constructive discussion--just a couple of posts about what sort of harp he uses; thanks Tommy TH--and a fair bit of discussion about Popper's weight and the relative fairness or unfairness of fat jokes.
Come on, guys. This is a harmonica forum, not a catty gossip column. This thread is done.
You're free, btw, to discuss Popper's playing and equipment in another thread, or two, or more, as you're free to discuss ANY player in connection with those things. Personal insults don't fly here.
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