BnT
35 posts
Mar 23, 2017
3:14 PM
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Tired of toting my 53 lb Bassman (often just a speaker cabinet for my Masco A-17). Building a cabinet for low-med volume gigs once I decide on speakers.
Currently thinking a 10" blue frame Eminence with two 6x9's (I like the old Valco's with 6x9's) and I have 2 of the 3 on the shelf already. Realize 3x10, 1x10+2x8, and 2x10+1x8 are all possibilities. Just want good tone and less weight.
Your thoughts?
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BnT
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1847
4041 posts
Mar 23, 2017
3:40 PM
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If price is no object check out the g10a
great speakers.
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LSB
249 posts
Mar 24, 2017
7:54 AM
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For lightweight 10" harp speakers, it's probably going to be tough to beat the Jensen Jet Tornado. At 3.75 lbs, it's half the weight of the G10a, and most other speakers. Excellent sounding harp speaker with good low end that isn't muddy or flabby, and nice top end that isn't muted or overly dark. Good efficiency but rated power handling @ 100w. It's an expensive speaker, but good deals can be found used.
Best 10" for harmonica that I've heard is the Eminence RF10C, which is a steal at just under $70, but again, like many good 10's, it weighs nearly twice as much as the Tornado.
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BnT
36 posts
Mar 24, 2017
9:11 AM
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Just to clarify - My amp is only 17 watts so I'm looking at using three 10-35W speakers that will be crunchy and break up early. One 75W-100W speaker won't provide the tone variation or breakup I'm looking for. Sorry if I was unclear.
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BnT
Last Edited by BnT on Mar 24, 2017 9:13 AM
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LSB
250 posts
Mar 24, 2017
9:45 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, when the speaker break-up occurs doesn't have much (if anything) to do with the power handling of the speaker, or how much power you are putting through the speaker. A certain amount and type of breakup is designed into the speaker and that break-up occurs at very low power, less than a watt as I recall.
I've posted articles by a well known speaker company on this topic a couple of times, so I'm not stating my own opinion, just passing on info from those who ought to be the experts, fwiw.
The speakers I mentioned happen to sound very good for harp in my 6 watt and 30 watt amps, IMO. Plenty of other options out there though.
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1847
4042 posts
Mar 24, 2017
10:22 AM
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au contraire mon frere
i have a bassman, it until recently had 4 mojo tone speakers installed
i believe they are 30 watts each. they work very well in my amp.
i have just recently removed 2 of them and installed the g10a's
the have a glorious tone. if the bassman is 40 watts, then each speaker is getting 10 watts?
these speakers have the top end chime the old jensens had.
but the bass is tight and will not flub out on the bottom like they did.
if it were posible to put 4 of them in my amp i would do so.
only 2 will fit. but that is ok they work perfectly with the mojotones.
i may be willing to sell 2 of them since they are not needed.
i think we sometimes get caught up in a speakers wattage and think
it must absolutely match the output. which can and does make a difference
but you'd be surprised.
i was shocked to say the least. i have tried original jensens reconed jensens
blue frames ... mojos "same thing" the new jensen re-issues tone tubby low watt alnico
and various other speakers, even a celestion in a quilter amp. all of them would work for me. lots of good tones to be had. i never had any issues with any of them.
the only speaker that did not work for me was in a blues jr. 2 different blues jrs.
it was god awful.... having said that, my friend has a great sounding blues jr
that is totally stock and it sound awesome."stock speaker" go figure
sometimes i leave my vintage amps at home and just use that.
lots of harp players think it is the gear, and in fact it is the player that makes the difference.
no not you.... i have heard your playing excellante!
you should post more.
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LSB
251 posts
Mar 25, 2017
5:57 AM
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On the topic of speaker breakup and power rating, Here's a quote from Anthony Lucas, a guitarist and speaker design technician at Eminence:
"I often hear, “My speaker breaks up too early so I need a higher power speaker,” or, “I want earlier break-up so I need a lower power speaker.” In most cases, both may be true. However, the power rating is not a contributor. I cannot emphasize this enough: the power rating does not contribute to the break-up mode of the speaker. The rate of break-up depends on the cone density and the relationship between the top plate thickness and voice coil winding height."
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