I remember Buddy Rich performed at my high school in the '70s. He was incredible. His band was pretty damn good, too. Music didn't matter to Buddy, it was only there to bookend his drumming.
Such talent, playing Big Band in nowhere gigs to folks who listened to Marvin Gaye and The Temptations.
He was a phenomenal drummer. Dude was KILLER. It's understandable that he was passionate about his music. It was also his bread and butter afterall. Can't mess with a man's money. (Messin with my money is like messin with my emotions!)
The first one was understandable. And i was on his side. By the last one, ..... if he talked to me like that he'd have been smooth knocked out. I woulda beat the brakes off him. He was asking for it. ----------
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Rich was am ex marine who served in WW2 and a black belt in karate besides being the worlds fastest drummer at the time. He also had a hair trigger temper and was known as a brawler while in the Dorsey band. Guys who played with him knew what they were getting into
Fair enough. It did seem like he was yelling at the same guy throughout the clips. If he didn't like it he should have left. He was an amazing drummer.
However, Black Belts dont make you bullet proof. So you should never speak as if you are. Kno what i mean? ----------
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My friend, Jimmy Bruno, played guitar for Buddy. He got fired every two weeks and rehired. Jimmy said,"but he had to give me a ten dollar raise every time he hired me back". ----------
wow--- wow---If time after time "everyone else is wrong and u are right" --u need to question whether or not yr insane--
Some people are addicted to controversy---they find some way to have conflict---They need to argue --
Sometimes boss's 'CROSS THE LINE ' between work criticism and enter into just trying to intimidate u, as a man, or women, or person-
When the one boss I had, did this---I said " ok now you've crossed the line-now yr just trying to intimidate me- You have 2 weeks notice or u can let me go now-
He let me go ' from that moment HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO ME' When he tried he got the worst verbal tongue lashing, he had ever had ---followed with “now hit me or walk away”---he walked away.
Playing music in front of people is one of the most fun jobs, in the world-its like an actor finally getting a part-- Yes the music is important, but I think your responsibility as a performer--what they 'PAY U FOR' whether in small bars or big auditoriums, or concerts----Is to make sure people have a good time and leave feeling good— If u start to play the wrong chord but quickly change it—the audience seldom knows— I f the band leader flies off the handle , that does bum the audience out. When the single, duo, trio or full band is having fun the audience picks it up and has fun as well.
After listening to that, I can’t imagine the band members having fun. It must have been relayed to the audience in some way. thats a shame.
Whether or not people are aware of it- --people go to bars, concerts, music festivals etc , to have rest from the realities of bills, medical problems, a job they hate, a cheating boyfriend or girlfriend etc . I bartended for 23 years and have played music in bars for over 30 years, this has been my observation. Drama and anger is what they want rest from---a little non reality—A little escape time- a little peace, listening to their favorite artist etc ---
There are many famous guitar players better than Elvin Bishop. But he keeps getting booked as much or more—In my opinion its hes playing and him—the whole package is a good vibe- a good time---players on stage have fun—hes a kook ---but he is himself a great player and super good guy-on the blues cruise everyone talks to him—very accessible and real person
Its my personal belief that most people will hire a pro : they like,-----gets along with people----shows up on time ---not drunk etc--- plays the times their suppose to --- ETC Rathur than the best player in the world, that everyone hates
Sorry grew up in a very hatefull, angry household and have made it my lifes goal, to be the opposite of that—so stuff like this gets me goin ---- peace out
I know a guy who played trumpet in the Rich band the last 3-4 years of Rich's life. When he got the news he called Rich's home and said "is Buddy around?" and was informed that Rich had passed away. Five minutes later he called back and said "is Buddy there?" and was asked "didn't you just call and didn't you understand that Buddy has passed away?" The trumpet player said "yeah, but I just wanted to hear it again."
He says Rich was the biggest asshole he has ever known.
I heard Ray Charles could get in yer face. On the other hand, a drummer I played with attended a workshop led by Buddy Rich ( in about 1971 ); he ran into him at a Pizza Hut on a lunchbreak and Buddy invited him to sit at his booth. After the waiter took the order, Buddy opened up his briefcase, took out a bottle of whisky and asked my buddy if he wanted a slug. Musicians are musicians.
I have one of a number of Buddy Rich berates his band cassettes that has been out for at least 20 years. He was classic old school bandleader that didn't put up with ANYTHING and many of those bandleaders didn't think twice about getting in your face about things. From a bandleader's standpoint, EVERYTHING that ANY of the band members do reflects both very well as well as very poorly on them. Band members can at times acts like a bunch of immature drunk jam hacks that sometimes needs someone to be asshole that keeps everyone in line. I've seldom had to be like that but if I have to, I won't hesitate to do that.
Many pros are definitely going to be perfectionists and the attitude of a jam hack of "just good enough" ain't gonna cut it with someone like that. Now am I a perfectionist, personally??? ABSOLUTELY yes!!! Most of the pros I've met in my lifetime definitely were that way as well. To be in a band, especially as a pro, you NEED to have thick skin and you can't take everything personally and that's something I had to learn and just about every bandleader I gigged with in a pro environment and the vast majority of pro musicians I've met in my lifetime were perfectionists.
Put it this way. For example, if you screw up the time on a tune or more than one tune, you can absolutely COUNT on the fact that I'm gonna get right the hell in your face about it because not only you make yourself look bad, you will make everyone else around you look even worse and when you screw up the time, the groove is a mess, and will bore and lose the audience quickly. (Open jams are different because it is expected to have 100% lower musical standards but on a real paid gig, that's WAY different). ---------- Sincerely, Barbeque Bob Maglinte Boston, MA http://www.barbequebob.com CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
no way would I take that.........I would walk....why would anybody want to play for a lunatic like that?hes lucky he got anybody to play in his band....and hes luckier somebody did not shoot him.....
"Hey, I see you were in Buddy Rich's band - I'm impressed! We could use a good horn guy. But how come you're looking for another gig?" "I screwed up on something and he yelled at me so I walked." "Oh. Well, uh, if anything comes up I'll give you a call ..."
