Tom Lauten
8 posts
Aug 23, 2015
10:45 AM
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Hi everyone,
I see a LOT of inexpensive harp mics out there, often made by "garage" operations. They tend to come in at less than $50. They look great often with metal egg shaped bodies or turned wood ones.
WHERE DO PEOPLE GET MIC ELEMENTS FOR THESE?! The price would suggest they are not old crystal elements like from a classic bullet mic. Surely they are not the super cheap piezo disks either? They seem to say the mics are "crystal" with High-Z elements. Are they dynamics? Piezo?
I want to make my own mics just to mess with but the elements are a mystery to me. Can anyone help? I live n the UK by the way. Thanks everyone,
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Tom "Bad Paw" Lauten
Loch Ness, Scotland
www.buyandapply.com
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NiteCrawler .
328 posts
Aug 23, 2015
11:33 AM
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Hi Tom,E-bay of course is a good outlet although you,ve got to know what your looking for,Hi Z,s, mid z,s with added transformers, ceramics,dynamics etc.and what the fair market value is.Some folks are out of hand with they,re pricing. If you scroll down on your left you will see Blues Harp Forum and with that you will see forum search.There is alot of info on elements if you type in mic elements.As for getting lucky with elements it is still possible.Within the last 3 weeks I bought an old revere tape recorder at a yard sale with a mic with a 49 or 50 black label for $15.00,and just last week I bought a Shure CR 41 bullet on a stand for $55. shipped and that had a black label cr also.I will say my luck was with me in the last month.I hope the forum search helps you.Good Luck
Last Edited by NiteCrawler . on Aug 23, 2015 3:38 PM
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Greg Heumann
3085 posts
Aug 23, 2015
10:18 PM
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You can buy modern, made in China crystal elements from electronics supply houses for $2. They suck.
To learn about elements you have to try lots and lots of them. You have to learn where they come from and how to find them. It is just part of the deal. You have to learn about impedance. You have to learn about the generational differences between models of the same basic element (like Shure CM/CR of which there are at least 5 distinct generations).
My document "All about harmonica microphones, and then some...." might help. So will the web sites http://www.jt30.com and http://www.greenbulletmics.com
You can read and learn a lot - but you can't really understand until you've tried many examples - as the further back we go, the more variation there was from element to element. Those things were NOT assembled by robots!
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BlowsMeAway Productions
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rogonzab
788 posts
Aug 24, 2015
2:26 PM
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https://www.theharpmicshop.com/products.html
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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.
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mlefree
382 posts
Aug 25, 2015
9:28 AM
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The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is, "TANSTAAFL." That stands for, "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch."
Prepare to spend a lot of time and money to gain the knowledge and experience of a Greg Heumann or Dave Kott. They've invested years of time and tons of money to gain their understanding of all the technical and practical ins and outs of finding and using good microphone elements. Not to mention they're qualified engineers and technicians to begin with.
My advice: Sidestep all that time and expense and talk to Greg about buying some of his Heumann elements. Then go nuts making what ever shells your imagination can dream up knowing you've got the best available elements. [Don't believe me about Heumann elements? Ask Ronnie Shellist.]
You'll thank me on down the road. :)
Michelle
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SilverWingLeather.com
email: mlefree@silverwingleather.com
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Greg Heumann
3088 posts
Aug 25, 2015
10:37 PM
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For the record I offer the following elements for sale.
- 99S556 Dual Impedance CM (what was in a Shure 520D)
- The Heumann Element
- 99A86 / 99B86 CM (what was in a Shure 520)
- 99G86/99H86 white label CM's, Other "premium" CMs
- 99H86 / 99G86 white label CR's
- 99A86 / 99H86 / 99G86 black label CR's
- Astatic MC-151 Crystal 100% output
- Astatic MC-127 Ceramic
- Shure R7 Crystal - 80% output
- Shure R7 Crystal - 100% output
- Brush Crystal - 80% output
- Brush Crystal - 100% output
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BlowsMeAway Productions
See my Customer Mics album on Facebook
Bluestate on iTunes
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Amish
5 posts
Sep 19, 2015
6:41 AM
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Hi, Nightcrawler I am curently looking for a CR 41 shell. You can E-mail me if you are willing to sell it without the element.
enricopallazo.ee@gmail.com
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