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atty1chgo
1250 posts
May 20, 2015
4:43 PM
The creation of this list came to mind upon the passing of B.B. King.

You may argue with the order, but will be hard pressed to find a BLUES guitarist that can crack this list other than these ten masters

TOP TEN BLUES GUITARISTS OF ALL TIME

1. Jimi Hendrix
2. B.B. King
3. Eric Clapton
4. Buddy Guy
5. Muddy Waters
6. Robert Johnson
7. Johnny Winter
8. Stevie Ray Vaughan
9. Hubert Sumlin
10. Albert Collins
Goldbrick
1008 posts
May 20, 2015
4:57 PM
No Albert King , Lonnie Johnson, Mike Bloomfield or Earl Hooker ??
Honorable mention Freddie King and Peter Green

For pure guitar I would drop from your list Muddy Waters ( great singer and band leader -not guitarist), Albert Collins ( dynamic but not great-that capo limited him), Hubert Sumlin ( great band player but not a soloist) and Johnny Winter( close but no cigar )


Just my 2 cents
atty1chgo
1251 posts
May 20, 2015
6:23 PM
Good selections all around.

One of the classic errors in judging guitarists is the propensity to focus on lead guitarists only. Hubert Sumlin has been acknowledged by players such as Eric Clapton, Stevie, Santana, Hendrix, Keith Richards, Robert Cray, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck et.al on down as a major influence, and was the quiet master behind Howlin' Wolf.

I think Mike Bloomfield is a close but no cigar compared to Johnny Winter, whose slide and lead guitar work and discography is more extensive. I would include Albert King and Freddie King as honorable mention.

Last Edited by atty1chgo on May 20, 2015 6:25 PM
Komuso
585 posts
May 20, 2015
6:38 PM
Ted Nugent because he gives me the blues every time he opens his mouth.

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timeistight
1774 posts
May 20, 2015
6:47 PM
That's definitely a rocker's list.

Here, in no particular order, are some "top blues guitar players" who haven't been mentioned yet:

Blind Lemon Jefferson
Charley Patton
Blind Blake
Blind Willie McTell
T-Bone Walker
Wayne Bennett
Louis Myers
Robert Lockwood
Guitar Slim
Elmore James
1847
2358 posts
May 20, 2015
6:56 PM
jr watson
ronnie horvath
jonny winter

elvin bishop

Last Edited by 1847 on May 20, 2015 7:00 PM
Dragonbreath
49 posts
May 20, 2015
7:21 PM
Albert King is absolutely given without a doubt in my book. Nobody comes close to his expressive tone. Well close maybe, but only close.
I'd put Skip James in a top 10.
Son House honorable mention.
Goldbrick
1010 posts
May 20, 2015
7:29 PM
Without Albert King- No SRV
Without Freddie King/Otis Rush - No EC
Without Bloomfield- maybe none of the 60's white guys

I was negligent in leaving off T Bone tho ( Charlie christian too)
davew
31 posts
May 20, 2015
7:34 PM
Any Top Ten list without T-Bone Walker is ridiculous.
Komuso
586 posts
May 20, 2015
7:49 PM
Without Hound Dog Taylor - No Alligator Records

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ted burke
236 posts
May 20, 2015
8:42 PM
1.BB KING
2.JOHNNY WINTER
3.FREDDIE KING
4.ELMORE JAMES
5.4.ALBERT COLLINS
6.T BONE WALKER
7.JIMI HENDRIX
8.PETER GREENE
9.MIKE BLOOMFIELD
10.ALBERT KING
11.MAGIC SAM
12.LITTLE MILTON
13.HARVEY MANDEL
14.CHUCK BERRY


Eric Clapton and Stevie Ray Vaughn are greatly over valued, in my view.
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Owen Evans
30 posts
May 20, 2015
9:05 PM
Not sure if I agree that the list is all about blues guitarists?

If I were to pick a top ten list of blues guitarists, it certainly would include the following:

Jimmy Rogers
Eddie Taylor
Big Bill Broonzy
Lightning' Hopkins
Jimmy Reed
Elmore James
T-Bone Walker
BB King
Jimmy Vaughn
Robert Johnson
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Danny Starwars
178 posts
May 20, 2015
10:07 PM
No Blues guitarist list is complete without Brownie McGhee.

I often try to get guitarists to help me play a S&B tune, and they initially think 'Meh, acoustic guitar - how hard can it be?

But Brownie does some really quite flashy stuff. I've had a few gat players baulk when they listen closely, and I usually tell them just to strum those parts lol.

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teahika
25 posts
May 21, 2015
1:27 AM
@ Danny
Have to agree with you on this one. Saw Brownie on his own in Dunedin 30 plus years ago and it still rates as one of the best concerts I have been to.
atty1chgo
1253 posts
May 21, 2015
5:06 AM
As with all lists, the temptation for personal preference many times overrules reasoned analysis. But Ted, Harvey Mandel over Eric Clapton? Good God man, I would love to know how you came to that conclusion. Or Owen's pick of Jimmy Vaughan. Please tell me what you see that I am missing.

Last Edited by atty1chgo on May 21, 2015 5:19 AM
Honkin On Bobo
1317 posts
May 21, 2015
5:44 AM
HA! I love that you put Hendrix at the top of this list. First album (album: how's that for a blast from the past!) I ever bought The Jimi Hendrix Experience: Smash Hits. I think I was 13. I always loved Jimi the most when he was leaning toward or playing the blues vs. his psychedelic artistry, eg. feedback and all the wild extended jam stuff. Though I definitely respected the latter.

I never expected him to be on anybody's top ten blues guitatist list though, never mind numero uno.

Sweet.
shbamac
408 posts
May 21, 2015
6:18 AM
You can't have a list without Sister Rosetta Tharpe. If you don't know who she is you life is not complete. Well, maybe it is...

Also Rev. Gary Davis and Son House
ted burke
238 posts
May 21, 2015
6:45 AM
Definitely Harvey Mandel over Eric Clapton. Clapton as a guitarist , when he decides to be a guitarist and not a pop star, EC is a blend of all 3 Kings, very stylized, very repetitive, especially when he takes a long solo. He is infrequently inspired; in the studio he hasn't broken a sweat since his From the Cradle album, where he played with real fire, and not since his live recordings with Stevie Winwood from earlier this decade. Even so, for the duration of his post-Cream career he sounds like sped up version of what others have done . It's not that I don't like him as a guitarist--I do--but I don't think he's really the genius people make him out to be. His best work , in my view, is the live work he did with Cream on Wheels of Fire and Goodbye, balls to the walls blues improv where he forget his habit of blues formalism and let it fly in many directions. Since then, he's contracted and became a pop star over being an instrumentalist. Financially, smart career move, but at the cost of guitar creativity.Mandel, on the other hand, is amazingly under regarded; he is one of a kind, no one sounds like him, his style with the blues is unique, he has a jazz fluidity that Clapton lacks, he is a credible jazz/fusion player with two classic albums Shrengrenade and The Snake, he is funky , he is slippery, he is a master of sustain, he moves through the typical blues changes and then some with phrases , segues and turn arounds that are his alone. Mandel has always been a more interesting guitarist than Clapton.
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Owen Evans
31 posts
May 21, 2015
8:13 AM
Thanks for the question. Here's an opinion.

Jimmy Vaughn plays the blues with a reverence to the music. He's been on stage with just about everybody who's who in the blues genre. In the '70's he was mentored by the best of the 40's and 50's blues guitarists at Antones in Austin. He kept the blues alive when everyone else was chasing disco tunes for the money. He seems to get every nuance from every note he plays. He slows down the music so we can hear the melody and then moves the music from one place to another as he feels it that day. He allows you a window into the music which comes from superb playing.

Eric Clapton has proven that he was and is a great guitarist many times over. His rock career is stellar and his homage to blues greats is very respectful. (He and BB did play together) As a Top 10 "blues" guitarist? He'd have to have played that genre for all of his career and he has not. I appreciate his talent and at 70 years old, he's still an undisputed superb musician/guitar player. Out of all the guitarists around now, he chose Jimmy Vaughn to accompany him at his May 5th birthday party. Perhaps he knows more about top ten 'blues' guitarists then you or I do?
It's only my opinion and we are all entitled to one.
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kudzurunner
5469 posts
May 21, 2015
8:16 AM
Lonnie Johnson probably needs to be on that list. He invented blues lead guitar. In 1929. He bent strings to make a regular guitar get those bluesy pitches.



He could jazz up the blues, too:

Last Edited by kudzurunner on May 21, 2015 8:19 AM
nowmon
33 posts
May 21, 2015
9:37 AM
I think that how much one influences other guitar players on top of how much they have their own sound is too choose the best.Albert King, I feel has influenced more guitar players and there are many young players doing Albert King`s licks and don`t even know it,they think their copying SRV...
6SN7
541 posts
May 21, 2015
11:29 AM
Charlie Christian
Jimi Hendrix
Albert King
Peter Green
Mike Bloomfield
T-Bone Walker
Otis Rush
Albert Collins
Freddie King
Chuck Berry
Rgsccr
337 posts
May 21, 2015
11:48 AM
I like that last list by 6SN7 a lot. I would like to see Robert Johnson, Tommy Johnson, Lonnie Johnson and Skip James included along with Elmore James and Magic Sam. And the group that timesight includes guys who should be consider, too - Blind Lemon Jefferson, Charley Patton, Blind Blake, Blind Willie McTell, Wayne Bennett, Louis Myers,Robert Lockwood, Guitar Slim. Just too many greats for a list of ten.
Dr.Hoy
50 posts
May 21, 2015
11:54 AM
Earl Hooker needs to be up there.

Last Edited by Dr.Hoy on May 21, 2015 11:54 AM
barbequebob
2928 posts
May 21, 2015
12:15 PM
There are plenty of other guitar players many of you have failed to mention and much of what's been mentioned are the heavy string bender types and there are plenty of guys in no particular order I'd mention here to name a few:

Tiny Grimes
Bill Jennings
Gene Phillips
Robert Nighthawk
Earl Hooker
Jody Williams
Edgar Blanchard
Mickey Baker
Bukka White
Matt Murphy
Duke Robillard
Junior Watson
Sam Lawhorn
Eddie Taylor
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marine1896
172 posts
May 21, 2015
12:35 PM
I had already posted just before barbequebob (but it disappeared) mentioning Bill Jennings and Junior Watson, but I also mentioned Johnny Moore (Three Blazers)...bit more RnB though, but he was Charles Browns axe man and an influence on Chuck Berry.
barbequebob
2930 posts
May 21, 2015
1:46 PM
@Owen Evans -- Jimmy Vaughn is highly respected by other guitarists because of two things he's able to do that many guitar players often absolutely suck at and that's the ability to play good rhythm and how to use space. As far as I'm concerned, Jimmy Vaughn, for a harp player, is a FAR better choice for backing up a harp player than his brother ever was unless you're one of those unfortunate types that listens ONLY to solos and nothing else but.
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hvyj
2685 posts
May 21, 2015
2:05 PM
Lightnin' Hopkins, Otis Rush, Ronnie Earl Horvath, Rev. Gary Davis



Last Edited by hvyj on May 21, 2015 2:26 PM
Goldbrick
1012 posts
May 21, 2015
2:30 PM
SRV could play back up too. That wasnt why he was out there tho- why would you want him to play 2nd fiddle to some harp player ?

There are stars and there are support players- you are not gonna hire BB King or Robert Johnson as a sideman either


Watch this and tell me he is over rated



You can be a blues snob and have obscure favorite sidemen- but they defeat the purpose of this kind of list
Michael Rubin
1042 posts
May 21, 2015
3:19 PM
What about Hollywood Fats?

Although not top 10 material, the guys who have touched me the most live that haven't been mentioned are Robert Cray, Little Charlie Baty, Anders Osborne, John Mooney, Joel Foey (sp?) and Zach Zunis.
1847
2362 posts
May 21, 2015
4:03 PM
so no one has mentioned kid anderson

so all the guitar slingers i mentioned are white
so do they even count?
Komuso
593 posts
May 21, 2015
7:34 PM
Ted Nugent isn't white, he's redneck.

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1847
2364 posts
May 21, 2015
7:43 PM
he is a red neck..... i am a skin head big difference lol

he is not in the same league as any one i have mentioned

komo, would love to hang sometime...... you have style.

the ice cold asahi is on me.
SuperBee
2614 posts
May 22, 2015
3:33 AM
nah, i just dont know.

all those guitarists named are more or less meaningful to me and some i really like but i couldn't begin to rate them in any real objective way. i'm not really sure how anyone can. whats the criteria?

Adam has a top 11 blues harmonica players list. there are some clear criteria. this guitarist list seems too arbitrary to me. influence seems a possible criteria. innovation may be one? it doesnt seem right that mere popularity should be a qualification, and yet it probably figures in 'influence"

distinctiveness? technical skill? originality? (is that the same as distinctive or something different) what else? bluesiness?

Last Edited by SuperBee on May 22, 2015 4:36 AM
harpdude61
2279 posts
May 22, 2015
5:21 AM
These lists should say "Top 10 Blues Guitarists I've Been Exposed To"....I can't make a list because many of these I have never heard, but thank you, I see names I will surely look up.

I'll tell ya one. When he plays blues, Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top has excellent phrasing, doesn't try to be too fancy, totally gets the value of space, great tone, and can milk a note for all it's worth.

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Rgsccr
338 posts
May 22, 2015
9:01 AM
Not being a guitar player (heck, I am barely a harp player), I can't claim any expertise in assessing top blues players. However, I do know what I like, what moves me, and Hound Dog Taylor certainly is near the top for me.

Last Edited by Rgsccr on May 22, 2015 9:01 AM
Tuckster
1468 posts
May 22, 2015
9:16 AM
I hate top 10 lists. They are too limiting,especially when it comes to guitar-there are so many good ones.Maybe 10 most influential would work.Before I played harp I would have chosen those who can endlessly solo. Now, I find I listen for what they do when they are not soloing. Do they play well with others(particularly harp players)? That's not to slight the great soloists,but my tastes have changed. 48-72 bar solos bore me to tears.
ted burke
239 posts
May 22, 2015
10:16 AM
The lists so far are statements of taste, not matters of fact. "Top Ten Guitarists of All Time" implies infinity, time before time and all the rest, and it's a lead pipe cinch that no one has heard every guitarist, ever, who considered him or her self a blues player. What I say, though, is that this has been a civil discourse , quite a distinction than what you hear on You Tube comment thread relating to shred guitar videos.
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Danny Starwars
179 posts
May 22, 2015
11:06 AM
Yup, love the civility.

Though I will go postal if I don't get more love for Brownie.


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1847
2365 posts
May 22, 2015
11:17 AM
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sorry that was sticks mcgee

this should suffice

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Danny Starwars
180 posts
May 22, 2015
7:09 PM
THERE we go. To me he's the perfect acoustic guitarist to play harp alongside <3


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Komuso
594 posts
May 22, 2015
9:03 PM
lol @1847 Asahi is a nice crispy beer! Love to catch up sometime in the real world.

Yeah, I'm not big on "Best Ever [insert here]" lists myself, due to the obvious reasons.


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Last Edited by Komuso on May 23, 2015 5:03 AM
indigo
116 posts
May 22, 2015
10:59 PM
To me you'd have to a least define the criteria of Best by
Genre ie.Folk blues ,Chicago,big band,rock etc etc
No one guitarist would be on every list,would they?
I can't think of one who could.Not by recorded output anyway.

Last Edited by indigo on May 22, 2015 11:00 PM
Harmonicatunes
40 posts
May 23, 2015
5:02 AM
In my view, players on this list need to have staked out new ground.

BB King and T Bone Walker absolutely. SRV too, much later, but what a difference he made. Maybe also Jimmy Rogers, because he appeared on so many of the Chess recordings. Solos were few, however his backup lines were essential to this seminal style.

I'd also include the British guys, Eric Clapton and Peter Green in particular. They studied their heroes to death, but then put a harder Marshall based edge on it. This was new.

Have a listen to Strange Brew, by Cream. Who else on the radio was sounding like that back then? But ask yourself, who had Eric Clapton been listening to?

Albert King, of course.
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ted burke
240 posts
May 23, 2015
6:28 AM
Clapton, though , owes his biggest stylistic debt to Freddie King.
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Goldbrick
1014 posts
May 23, 2015
6:31 AM
I agree with your logic , Tony

I would say that I dont hear much Albert King in Clapton's playing.
I believe Freddie King was a greater influence on his guitar and his voice.

Now SRV was an Albert King player all the way



waltertore
2842 posts
May 23, 2015
7:19 AM
This forum is about modern so I figured I would throw Roy Buchanan in the mix. I became friends with Roy in the mid 70's after seeing him and my friend interviewed him after the show for his college raidio show. I then saw him play at least 50 times up till he died. He did stuff on the guitar that just about every blues rock guy used. Here is a clip with him and Johnny Otis. I use to help Johnny carry his box of cds to and from the powerhouse brewing company when he did a weekly radio show from there. It was a trip to see people from all over the world come to sit and listen to him play cds and talk. Most wanted photos with him and left. Often times there was no more than a few people in the audience. I never told him I was a musician. He was concerned with his and his wife's failing health so I would carry his stuff and listen to him. It sucks getting old as a pro musician unless you are a superstar.




This next clip is from carnige hall. I was at the show backstage with albert and roy. 2 of the greatest tele players ever IMO. They made them play very quiet and none liked it because they couldn't crank the amps to where they got their tones. Another link to this show is when I hit Austin my guitar couldn't keep up with the insane volumes they play at down there. I was given a 63 jazzmaster that Lonnie gave to stevie Vaughn when they recorded their album and I still have it.




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Harmonicatunes
41 posts
May 23, 2015
9:52 PM
Yep. Freddie King all right. Even down to the red 335.
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wolfkristiansen
358 posts
May 23, 2015
10:29 PM
It's all a matter of taste. Here's my list, in order of admiration:

1 Robert Johnson
2 Brownie McGhee
3 Lightnin' Hopkins
4 Lonnie Johnson
5 Skip James
6 Muddy Waters
7 T-Bone Walker
8 Albert King
9 Freddie King
10 Albert Collins

I'm an old man. In another life (no kids, no mortgage), I saw five of them-- Brownie, Lightnin', Muddy, Freddie, Albert C.

I shared a gig with one of them (Brownie) and played with one of them (Albert C.)

Muddy might be a stretch, but listen to the solo work he does in his early albums (Can't Be Satisfied, etc.).

Cheers,

wolf kristiansen

Last Edited by wolfkristiansen on May 23, 2015 10:41 PM
1847
2369 posts
May 23, 2015
10:31 PM
i just want to know one thing
how the heck do they get the upright piano on the tour bus. who the hell tours with one of those?

now i,m sure they can arrange to have one at each and every stop on the tour
but it looks like the same piano each time.
plus it would need to be tuned every day.

that is the real deal blues right there


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