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CarlA
775 posts
May 19, 2015
6:10 AM
This is from a recent jam. Singer called out G minor so I thought I would try some third position playing. My third is still very infantile at this stage and I am trying to put some effort into learning. Just wanted to see what others impressions (good and particularly bad :) ) are. Sound quality is poor, but sounds much better if played in a car/home stereo. Thanks:)

Ps. Video is kinda long. Fast forward between 2:35-5:00

Last Edited by CarlA on May 19, 2015 6:17 AM
MichaelMc
23 posts
May 19, 2015
8:56 AM
Man, I really liked that. I like how you built up to the solo and created a lot of tension. I thought the "release" of the tension during the solo was very well played. To my ears, I heard a lot of originality. It didn't feel derivative at all, which was really cool.

Third position suits you well.
slaphappy
99 posts
May 19, 2015
9:03 AM
did you consider the low F? A regular F in 3rd is pretty high register for me but I thought you did a good job.


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Last Edited by slaphappy on May 19, 2015 9:03 AM
Goldbrick
1004 posts
May 19, 2015
11:04 AM
I thought you sounded fine.

If the guitar guy is doing the freddie King/ Clapton song- it is not a minor key song( not sure what he was thinking) - but you got some minor key practice anyway
CarlA
776 posts
May 19, 2015
4:37 PM
@michaelmc
Thanks for taking the time to view and post your feedback. I really like third, just trying to get more comfortable with it. I guess it's back to the woodshed:)

@slapphappy
I have a low F, but didn't think to use it. I personally like playing standard F diatonic, but agree that it can sometimes be shrill :0(

@goldbrick
Thanks! Not too sure why he called out minor either-lol.
Jim Rumbaugh
1129 posts
May 19, 2015
7:37 PM
As Goldbrick said....

I wasn't hearing a definite minor chord, maybe sometimes, but I think the important thing is, you can play minor over major and it still sound good, but major over minor makes you sound like an amateur.

you did good enough.
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indigo
114 posts
May 19, 2015
8:05 PM
Not to hi jack your thread Carl,but it didn't seem worth it to start a new one.
Here's my go at a 3rd position track from way back when i played with a band who did a few minor songs.Now i mostly just go a Jam (where a minor is rarely called)Backing track by Dan Traynor called "African Root"
Any comments welcome

Last Edited by indigo on May 19, 2015 8:08 PM
jbone
1953 posts
May 19, 2015
8:26 PM
@ Carl, nice stuff man. I have played much more low F than regular but you made it sound very nice and no squeals or squeaks. My compliments.

@ Indigo, well done also sir!
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Martin
814 posts
May 20, 2015
5:17 AM
@CarlA: The high F is a tough beast to tame, but I think that during your backing/fills part you´re mostly doing just fine.
The solo however, lacks something. A certain ... decisiveness perhaps, and you convey some added uncertainty when you hit a few bum notes.

Don´t know how for long you´ve played and so forth -- but in this context there´s another guy who stands out as seriously lacking in ability. Not your fault, of course.
CarlA
777 posts
May 20, 2015
11:40 AM
@indigo
Thanks for sharing your video. I really enjoyed listening and I appreciate you posting it. Sounded great!!!

@jbone
Thanks for watching and taking the time to post mate. Thanks!

@martin
Been playing for about 3 years. Been noddling with 3rd more seriously for about 6 months.
Harp Study
89 posts
May 20, 2015
5:54 PM
I thought you sounded pretty good, but I've seen enough of your videos to know I really shouldn't be judging you ;-). You sound a lot better in 3rd than I do; but I'm working on it.

Edit: Just to make the last part of the first sentence clear: you're a lot better than I am (but that doesn't mean I don't have an opinion ;-))

Last Edited by Harp Study on May 20, 2015 5:57 PM
CarlA
778 posts
May 21, 2015
4:04 AM
@harp study

Thanks for the feedback, and your opinion is just as important ;)
Thanks for posting :)
Martin
816 posts
May 21, 2015
9:26 AM
@CarlA: OK, so you´ve been around a while. Then perhaps you own an Eb and/or Bb harp?
In a case such as this I´d say there could be merits in either using an Eb in 5th pos, or a Bb in 4th.
5th would give you some more room in the first octave; 4th could give you some effective wailing opportunities in the higher region -- of course, then you´re basically covering the same territory as the mid octave in F, but all things considered I´d still opt for one of those approaches.
CarlA
779 posts
May 21, 2015
3:30 PM
@martin

Yes, I have an Eb and B harp. Never tried 4/5 position. Mostly 2/3 and some 1st. I will have to investigate those options now. Thanks:)


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