mutton
1 post
Apr 12, 2015
3:11 PM
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well...
here we go...
i used to only play classic wooden Hohner MBs, but after i killed many of them (more through physical damage, messed up combs, corrosion, etc than actually totally blowing them out, i have probably had at least five C MB harps all of which i swapped and pirated the remains from gradually)i began to wonder.
when it came that i needed a new D, i thought i should try something else although i hated to go to something nontraditional... i was grumpy with hohner as the last couple MB i bought were junk out of the box so i looked at suzuki.
i bought D manji on a sale, which i was blown away by, amazing out of the box, amazing tone, played great, etc.
i then bought a D hammand promaster on a sale, when i needed a new D, which was equally amazing as the manji.
i then got an olive in C, which is good, but i am not as impressed with it as the other two, seemed to need to break in, its almost as good as the others now.
after all this, i feel like my preference for harps has changed.
i hate plastic, but i will live with it on a harp as it holds up better than the wood.
it also turns out that i like modern full cover plates MUCH better, even though i like the look of the traditional ones.
a recessed reed plate also sounds like something i would like better
i also feel like i would like more spacing between holes when available, and like the idea of a little larger harp...
all this and the corrosion resistance of SS reeds, makes me wonder if i should just buy a full set of sydel session steels and call it good for a while...
i have heard the steel reeds are nice for the lower end of things, but not for highs, is this true?
or should i just buy a set of suzuki bluesmasters (people do love these and their harpmaster and delta frost sisters).
or the standard session for that matter...
i just like the idea of the SS reeds (although they may blow out as soon as usual)and the wider comb better. and to be totally honest, i would rather buy a German made harp, than a Japanese one, since i am mostly of german decent etc.
or should i not buy a set and keep getting a totally different harp every time i need a new one? i would like to standardize my harps so i can pirate parts if i need to.
so, is the session steel the tank it is supposed to be, and is its tone on par with the many really nice harps in the $50 and up price range?
a set of 6 session steels is $300 bucks, which is a lot to drop for me on anything, thats more than i paid for the car i drive.
any general notes on the tone and behavior of stainless vs brass, or bronze would also be greatly appreciated...
thanks everyone! sorry for such a long drawn out question.
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STME58
1273 posts
Apr 12, 2015
3:54 PM
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I wouldn't buy any set without trying one or two first. That said, I like the session steel. Seydel seems from my limitied experience to be the best set up harp out of the box. I do not find that the steel reeds last any longer that the other good harps.Reed plates and individual reeds are available for Seydel. My kit contains Suzuki, Hohner, Seydel and Bushman and I don't have any problem switching between them. I did not even notice the hole spacing differences with the Seydel until I read about it on this site. THe biggest factor in reed life is how much I play a harp. If I keep one only one in my pocket and don't rotate it, it will fail in about a month, no matter what make or model. When I first started playing, this was less than a week.
Technically a stainless steel reed could last forever where a brass reed can not. That requires keeping the stress of the stainless reed below the endurance limit (something brass does not have).that is dependent on the design of the reed and the breath force used. I suspect that a reed designed for good sound in either brass or stainless will have a similar margin against high breath force.
You can make a good case for the set of same harps route or he mongrel kit route (the path I took). Don't worry too much about it and just keep playing.
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JustFuya
769 posts
Apr 12, 2015
4:58 PM
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I bounced around a little, buying variously keyed single harps from various manufacturers. After a while I realized my method was flawed; you can't judge an entire line from a single OOTB harp.
So I started buying sets on sale (3 so far) and now feel I have a more educated and personal opinion. I wound up with one set to give away singly as gifts (after a bit of tweaking). Another set I use while jamming with beer breath (sturdy). The last set is used for practice, playing in more serious situations and as backup for my customs (which I break out only when when my wits are largely intact).
You'll find a considerably sized cheering section for every make and model of harp.
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nacoran
8410 posts
Apr 12, 2015
6:14 PM
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I like Seydels, but I'm all for trying different harps. I wouldn't buy a set of harps if I hadn't tried the model before. There is nothing wrong with a set that doesn't match- in fact, it's easier to make sure you grab the right key on a dimly lit stage. I like Lee Oskars and Sp20s, but of the harps that I've tried my Seydels are my favorites.
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mutton
2 posts
Apr 12, 2015
8:16 PM
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i suppose it does make sense to at least try them before i buy a set. anyone have an opinion of them against the standard session and the bluesmaster (harpmaster/deltafrost) in tone and play character etc.
i like that i can easily change reeds on a seydel compared to a suzuki.
by standardizing my harps i meant really more of the fact that their parts would be exchangeable...
same reason i have three beater volvo 240s that keep trading parts...
anybody have an opinion on higher tunings vs lower for steel, i feel like i read somewhere that steel was better for low and brass up top.
maybe i will try the orchestra s and go from there maybe with a set.
thankyou folks!
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didjcripey
867 posts
Apr 12, 2015
8:28 PM
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Yep, I love the session steels. Long lasting, great tone, comfortable to play.
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zackattack
33 posts
Apr 12, 2015
10:17 PM
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I've played most brands, although not Suzuki, yet. The reason I've tried most brands is because I was dissatisfied with more than one of the brand/model I was currently playing. I currently play Seydels and they are the best OOTB harps I have played. The Session Steel is a particular favorite as the reeds are quite vibrant and overall very airtight. The covers are easy on your lips and tongue. When I become dissatisfied with them I will look for something else but, until then, they are a great harp.
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SuperBee
2543 posts
Apr 13, 2015
12:04 AM
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i haven't tried replacing a SS reed yet. i have a lot of suzuki and seydel reeds. mainly SS seydel reeds. i only have one SS harp and the little bit of work i had to do on it convinced me that its much easier to work with brass. i don't have enough samples to know whether they ever need much work though. mine did. on just one reed.
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A440
351 posts
Apr 13, 2015
2:08 AM
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Yes, the Session Steel is a very good instrument and good value for the money. I think the advantage of steel reeds is more about "staying in tune" than "lasting longer".
I also play Crossovers, Hammonds, SP20s. I think I like the Session Steel the best. But I use all my harps. A lot of it depends on my mood, or what I think best suits a specific song.
In the end, harp preferences are personal. Just try one.
The new "summer edition" looks very cool in Viper Green.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uInhUw8sLWU
Last Edited by A440 on Apr 13, 2015 8:13 AM
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Harmlessonica
121 posts
Apr 13, 2015
3:50 AM
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Hi mutton, and welcome. I'm guessing from your name that you have good chops!
I love my Session Steel, but as a beginner I'm still at the stage of trying different brands and models. I'd definitely recommend that to others if they haven't already done so.
Bear in mind that the Orchestra S is not a standard Richter tuned harp and is only available in a couple of keys (if memory serves... I looked into getting one myself last year, enticed by the translucent red comb...).
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mutton
3 posts
Apr 13, 2015
6:54 AM
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thankyou everyone
i would imagine the ss reeds are much harder to file than brass, i was debating between an orchestra, and a SSS in g. If i got the G i could later tune it to paddy if i bought a whole set. i lost my last g, and i was going to paddy that, and sell my irish tenor banjo which my wife just does not like, so i kinda stopped playing it( she likes 5 string, and loves irish music, just not the heavy picking irish tenor sound, especially by its self).
yes, that porsche viper green looks nice, i actually painted my wifes 1977 volvo, porsche signal orange, which the normal SSS looks to be, but i like the green better personally. there is another shop that has the turquoise ones on blowout, but while i like turquoise, it looks like junk on a harp. still... if i can save a few bucks i'll go with those.
well, i do have chops so to speak, in the barn at the moment till the pasture shapes up. some in the freezer too.
thanks for the note on the orchestra, yup, i know it is solo tuned.
anyone want to compare the SSS to the standard session, or the harpmaster?
thanks again
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HarpNinja
4081 posts
Apr 13, 2015
7:13 AM
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I play Special 20's, but also like the Session. The 1847 is probably nicer overall, but the Session looks like a real work horse.
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A440
352 posts
Apr 13, 2015
8:16 AM
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Yes, stainless steel is a harder metal, so filing them is more difficult. But the whole point is - they stay in tune. So you may never need to file them. They are very low maintenance harps. I have never needed to touch one of mine with a file. I have 8 keys and have been gigging and practicing with them for over 2 years.
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dougharps
899 posts
Apr 13, 2015
10:21 AM
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Using Rockin' Ron's current prices (no affiliation, etc.), the cost of one harp and of one set of plates today would be as follows:
Gigable lower priced harps:
Marine Band $41.50 and no replacement plates; Special 20 $41.25 - Rocket plates $45 w/o screws [$29!!! PER 4/16/15]
[EDIT: PER ROCKIN' RON'S SITE ON 4/16/15 THE REPLACEMENT PLATES FOR ROCKET/SPECIAL 20 (w/o screws) ARE $29, NOT $45! I sincerely state that I looked them up when posting this, but I either messed up SOMEHOW, or the price on the site has been changed.]
Golden Melody $42.75 plates $33; Bluesmaster $35 - Manji plates $30.75; Harpmaster $36.75 - Manji plates $30.75; Delta Frost $37.99 DF plates with comb $24.99, can use Manji plates, too.
EDIT: Check out Blues Session prices. I haven't tried, but some find them to be a good option at this tier.
Quality harps, but not priciest tier:
Rocket $57.75 plates $45 w/o screws [$29 see above]; MBD $61.25 plates $45 w/o screws; Crossover $66.55 plates $45 w/o screws; Seydel Session Steel $59.95 plates $29.95; Suzuki Manji $57.00 plates $30.75.
You can look up the priciest tier yourself. If you are asking if it is worth it for Session Steel you don't really need that info.
My conclusions:
Gigable lower cost harps:
NOW CHANGED 4/16/15!
"My conclusion is that with the discontinuation of Spec 20 plates other than using $45 Rocket plates w/o screws that cost more than the whole harp, Spec 20 is now a disposable harp, like Marine Band. If you like them, you can just buy new harps. Save the plates for replacement reeds."
EDIT: SINCE the price is listed on 4/16/15 as being $29, Special 20 and Rocket remain viable options.
I find Delta Frost, and presumably Harpmaster to be comparable to Spec 20, but a little different. Worth trying and in the long run less expensive than Spec. 20 [with $29 for SPEC 20 plates, Spec 20 is viable. (I have gigged with Delta Frosts and find them OK, but I prefer Manji and Session Steel.) Bluesmasters are similar to Golden Melody, each with comparably priced replacement plates. With Manji plates, I might like the Bluesmaster better than I do with the original stock plates I have tried.
Quality, but not priciest tier harps:
Buying Hohners in this range with one set of replacement plates will now cost you more [EXCEPT WITH SPEC 20/ROCKET PLATES SELLING FOR $29, THIS HAS CHANGED], and the plates do not include screws. I usually buy in this tier and am now exploring Manji vs. Session Steel for future harps. I like both, and in the long run either would be less expensive than the comparable Hohners. I have liked MBD and Crossover, but so far I find that Manjis and Session Steel harps are more durable for me. Both have lasted far longer than MBD and Crossovers, particularly the key of D harps that I have been hardest on.
One alternative option would be to get a Bluesmaster, Harpmaster, or Delta Frost, and then buy Manji replacement plates. I have not yet tried this, but may. If you like the Delta Frost or Harpmaster as is, you can use Delta Frost plates with combs for less than the Manji plates.
I used Special 20s for years, returning from the Lee Oscars I used after Spec 20s declined in the late 1900's. If you like LOs, the prices for harps and plates are quite reasonable. I just wanted a different sound and feel, so when the quality improved this century I came back to Spec 20s. Now I am again in transition. I have some 1847 Classics that I like OK, but for my style of playing, the Session Steels are comparable in quality and much less expensive in the long run.
So far I like Manjis and Session Steels a lot, but have not made a final decision. You might try the less costly tier if you are still beginning and exploring. I have gigged with Delta Frosts, and they can do 6 overblows easily and cleanly when adjusted.
For all of the harps above, I recommend some gap adjustments to suit your style. Several customizers can do this for you if you are not ready to work on harps. In the long run, it is a good thing to learn how to do basic adjustments to your harps.
EDIT: I SWEAR THAT WHEN I FIRST POSTED I SAW $45 AS THE PRICE FOR SPEC 20/ROCKET PLATES ON ROCKIN' RON'S. I AM REALLY SORRY IF I MISREAD THIS WHEN POSTING. CURRENTLY, WITH $29 REED PLATES, SPEC 20 AND ROCKET REMAIN DECENT OPTIONS.
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Last Edited by dougharps on Apr 16, 2015 8:15 AM
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zackattack
34 posts
Apr 13, 2015
10:48 AM
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Dougharps - Since you mentioned you are hardest on you D harp I should mention that my most favorite harp ever (so far) is my half-valved Seydel Session Steel in D. It plays like a custom with great response, easy bends and a sweet tone. Next harp purchase will probably be either a C or A Session Steel, half-valved.
I didn't see any mention of the Seydel Blues Sessions in your list of giggable lower cost harps? With the wide range of special tunings available these are workhorses in my case, especially in minor keys and country tunings.
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dougharps
900 posts
Apr 13, 2015
11:05 AM
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@zackattack
Sorry for the omission! You are correct that the Blues Sessions would be a viable option. I never tried them, choosing to go to the next level of harps at the time Seydel emerged as a contender. A couple of beginners I taught had brass reeds going flat on Blues Sessions, but they probably would have done the same on many varieties of harp, since they were in the "struggling with bending and playing too hard" stage...
At this time the Session Steel and Manji are the out of the box harps I like best.
In my opinion, the Delta Frost reed plates on a comb when you add spare covers of your own is the least expensive gigable harp.
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mutton
4 posts
Apr 13, 2015
2:08 PM
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thanks again everyone!
i thought the delta frost, suzuki bluesmaster, and suzuki harpmaster all share reedplates and phosphor bronze reeds?
i will be probably be buying from rons if i dont buy that set in canada that is on blowout.
i will probably buy more suzuki's, though i have yet to make my mind up on the whole ethicality and impact of encouraging export of goods from a country with a huge radiation problem. also like i said, i have german heritage. lets not make this a discussion of either of these things though.
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Harmonicatunes
18 posts
Apr 13, 2015
7:20 PM
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Not much mention so far of the Hohner Crossover. For those trawling the various brands before settling on a particular one, the Hohner Crossover is well worth a try. It addresses the well known issues of the Marine Band.
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GMaj7
667 posts
Apr 13, 2015
7:40 PM
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Mutton,
If you go Session Steel and standard tuning, it is a simple conversion to get it to Paddy Richter. I'll do it for no charge if you buy it from me. If not, I do it every day for about $15. Easy enough
The Seydel Session Steel Orchestra model is not only SOLO tuned but it also does not start on the root. It follows standard SOLO tuning on hole 3. Basically, it is a diatonic version of an Orchestra Tuned chromatic. So hole #1 would be a G, #2 C, #3 C... and so on...
One other note on the SS Orchestra. It is currently sold in compromise tuning. So the 3rds are going to be tuned down for cleaner chords. This is a bit bothersome to the Irish players so we have decided that the future runs will be produced in Equal Temperament.
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Seydel Factory Tech
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Schook
4 posts
Apr 13, 2015
8:53 PM
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The Session Steel* is my current favorite harp. I have also tried the SP20 and Lee Oscar. Just found that the SS sounds good to me and is really easy for me to play.
My only issue is I not so sure I like the cover plate profile on the SS. It seems big (or tall if that make sense) in my mouth. I seem to like the lower profile of the SP20 or LO covers. Does anyone know if the Seydel Solist covers would work on the SS, or is there a better option I might try?
*Only been playing for 6 months
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STME58
1280 posts
Apr 13, 2015
10:32 PM
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Lee Oscar and Seydel covers are interchangeable, as far as bot pattern and size. Don't know if reeds would ht the Lee Oscar covers on a session but going the other way works well.
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SuperBee
2544 posts
Apr 13, 2015
11:50 PM
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I dunno about interchangeability but I know what you mean about the Session covers. Only way they make any sense to me is if you tilt it until they feel ok. I think that's what they are all about
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boris_plotnikov
1048 posts
Apr 13, 2015
11:59 PM
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The main reason I gone to stainless steel reeds exclusively - I don't have to worry about tuning. I was never a hard blower and rare ruined reeds, but brass is constantly out of tune. When I played brass reeds I had to check tuning almost after every gig, octave out of tune here and there, open it and retune. Plus-minus 10-20 cents usually. For some players it's a minor difference, but it made my really angry. Now I just check all reeds before gigs and hear they are in playing condition. Seydel spare parts also affordable and I don't worry. I have set of spare harps if I ruin reed on gig and set of spare reeds and if I ruined one I can replace it in a half an hour. I usually ruined 1-4 reeds a year, playing up to 100 gigs a year.
Also stainless steel reeds have a slightly different responce. Now if I get a brass reeded harp I feel like I playing a toy.
So seydel rocks!!!
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Martin
797 posts
Apr 14, 2015
5:19 AM
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Being a hard player I had my hopes up for the Seydel Steels, and bought one in A.
Now, after what is less than 30 min of playing, I´ve had to give it a first tune-up. (5B slightly flat.)
A Blues Session in A bought at the same time is irretrievably gone (9B dead), slightly longer playing time there, probably up to 1 hour -- but no more. (I´ve been more careful in measuring the time on the SS.)
I was warned not to expect much form the Blues Sessions, and that was right in terms on endurance. Rather disappointed with the Steel, though.
In all fairness it should be said that the two Blues Sessions I bought (one is still pretty much untouched) were really smooth things, very nicely set up and good playability all over.
But that tend to mean a bit less when they die on you.
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SuperBee
2547 posts
Apr 14, 2015
5:42 AM
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Interesting you mention that Martin. I was surprised at how soon my LO F BluesSession popped it's clogs on the 5 draw reed.
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dougharps
903 posts
Apr 14, 2015
8:28 AM
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@Harmonicatunes
I like Crossovers and MBDs a LOT for playing ease and sound. They just don't hold up as well for me as Manji and SSs, and they cost a lot more for replacement plates. In the end, durability and repair/replacement cost DOES matter. If your experience is that Crossovers and MBDs hold up well with your style of playing, then by all means, keep playing them. They are good harps.
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Doug S.
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mutton
6 posts
Apr 14, 2015
10:36 AM
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martin, are your seydel results any different than what you get out of other harps?
out of all the harps i have played and heard, the manji has been my favorite (i have not played, or heard a seydel in person) there is this... http://rockinronsmusicsd.com/index.php?_a=product&product_id=25 but i really wanted to go back to german harps.
Doug, since you love the manji and the seydel session steel both, they are probably comparable. are they comparable in tone, or are there little things about one or the other that make it hard to decide.
i have liked full covers like the seydels compared to the manji, but like my manjis sound. i only groom a couple times a year, and the manji has yanked a few.
Greg, thankyou, if i get a single i'll probably hit you up, for now i would probably just get a straight g, and paddy it later if i get another one as part of a set. i have been practicing retuning and messing with my old trashed hohners.
you are located very close to where i used to live, has san antonio swallowed up spring branch yet?
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GMaj7
668 posts
Apr 14, 2015
12:05 PM
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Mutton,
I'm far enough up the road to where San Antonio won't take over. I'm in a different county, as well. Live right on the Guadalupe River...
Good live music here
Greg Jones
Seydel Factory Tech
greg.jones@seydel1847.com
1623customharmonicas.com
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mutton
7 posts
Apr 14, 2015
1:13 PM
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greg, i was mostly teasing, every time i have been back it just seems like it has engulfed more...
yup, there was decent music in the "hillcountry"
i friends and family pretty close to you still, grandparents ranch is up in lampasas...
anybody know if the SSS uses the same reedplate and reeds as the 1847 silver? just out of curiosity.
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dougharps
904 posts
Apr 14, 2015
1:50 PM
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The Session Steel uses different plates from the 1847 Classic and Silver (that share the same plates}. The Session Steel MIGHT have the same plates as the discontinued Seydel Silver +, which had recessed reed plates like the Session Steel. At this point it really doesn't matter if that is right or wrong, since the Silver + is long gone.
Regarding Manji and SS, the Manji seems to have a raspier tone, but that could be due to cover plates. There are slight differences in responsiveness, but both are comparable. I think I prefer the Manji in some ways, but I like recessed plates, so I am still figuring out my preferences.
I still play Special 20s, MBDs, and Crossovers that function, but will not replace them or the reed plates when they are beyond repair, due to price. I still have 4 [CORRECTION: 5!] Deak Harp Marine Bands that I like and will try to keep going.
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Doug S.
Last Edited by dougharps on Apr 16, 2015 7:42 AM
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GMaj7
669 posts
Apr 14, 2015
2:13 PM
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Mutton,
Shoot me an email.
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mutton
8 posts
Apr 14, 2015
5:26 PM
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found some decent breakdown here
http://www.patmissin.com/reviews/1847.html
and seydel says "stainless steel reeds provide the best clear and full sound and response of the 1847 models"
who knows, but i bet the fine tuning is different.
close enough not to spend the extra bit on the 1847 probably. but i wont know until i try
i think i have probably beaten this to death enough.
i will post my findings!
thanks everyone.
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mutton
9 posts
Apr 15, 2015
8:11 PM
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well, still pretending i am going to make up my mind, so i was looking on the reviews on amazon, before actually doing anything, and someone claims the session steel is horrible if you have a mustache.
i shave my face 2 or 3 times a year when the wife gets sick of pulling hay and doghair out of it, so this would be an issue.
anybody with hair on their face having issues with the sss, i occasionally have a problem with the manji.
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dougharps
905 posts
Apr 15, 2015
9:08 PM
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I have had that problem with Lee Oskars, but never pulled a mustache hair on a Session Steel. I can't see how a mustache could get caught with the full length covers.
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Doug S.
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zackattack
35 posts
Apr 15, 2015
10:05 PM
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Session Steels never pull my mustache. The cover shape is perfect for those of us with hair on our face!
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SuperBee
2550 posts
Apr 15, 2015
10:49 PM
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If a full-length cover doesn't sit in the slot properly, especially if one of the corners is a little raised, there is an access point a hair can slide into. the design is same as blues session. i only have one but definitely have hooked up with it closer than i wanted. generally though the design is sound
seydel Solist Pro is the snaggiest harp i know, maybe the reviewer mixed up the models
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Harmlessonica
126 posts
Apr 16, 2015
2:34 AM
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Hi mutton, I think I know the review you're referring to. Sounded like that guy had a bee in his bonnet as well as a hair in his harp...
My guess is his cover plates were slightly misaligned, leaving a tiny gap between the top cover and front edge of the comb. In such a case, all that's needed is to loosen the cover plate screws a tad, and then gently tap the plates to ensure there are no gaps. You might need to apply some pressure to keep the plates in place whilst you tighten the screws.
I've had quite a few hairs pulled in my time, but never with the Session Steel.
Having said that, if comfort is a priority, and you don't mind trying another Suzuki, I would opt for the Overdrive. Its the most comfortable harp I own. This is partly due to materials used, but also the sandwich design with solid resin covers which are slightly wider than the reed plates - which means that snagging a hair must be almost impossible.
It's also the most responsive of all the harps I've tried. The only downside is the sound holes on the top cover, which if you're not careful you might block inadvertently. It is more expensive than the Session Steel but worth considering in my opinion.
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Martin
800 posts
Apr 16, 2015
5:51 AM
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@mutton: "martin, are your seydel results any different than what you get out of other harps?"
Talking about the Blues Session in A it´s about one of the shortest lasting harps I´ve owned.
The jury is still out on the Session Steel. I had my hopes up -- quite a few hard players reported positively on those -- but will now only use it on gigs and recordings. It was kinda expensive.
The Special 20´s are my favourites in terms of general playability; the LO´s used to last me the longest -- but they have declined seriously in quality.
So I´m more or less back at Square 1 (as we say here in Sweden).
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dougharps
906 posts
Apr 16, 2015
7:52 AM
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Today I looked online on Rockin' Ron's and found that Special 20/Rocket replacement reed plates are listed at $29!
Either I hallucinated the $45 price when I reviewed prices and posted, or the site has changed the listed price due to Hohner or due to error.
The $29 price would make the replacement plates reasonable and keep the Special 20 and Rocket in my "viable option" category of harps.
I am correcting the listed price in my post above...
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Doug S.
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SuperBee
2551 posts
Apr 16, 2015
2:34 PM
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They wouldn't sell many at $45, it would have been cheaper to buy a sp20 and use the plates from that on your rocket.
The plates for hohner are too pricey, but the great thing is that they sell individual reeds for the handmade series, which makes them much cheaper to repair than brands which only supply spare reedplates. I believe Seydel also sell individual reeds.
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