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Sam Lay's Demos with Little Walter
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stupiddingus
1 post
Apr 11, 2015
6:04 PM
In the book "Blues With a Feeling: The Little Walter Story" it is said that Sam lay had made some demo tapes to send to record producers. He taped audio of a show with Little Walter at the L&H Lounge in the winter of 1967-68. It's also said that the audio might have appeared on bootlegs . The song list is as follows

Trouble No More
19 Years Old
My Babe
Can't Be Satisfied (inc)

Quite the few muddy tracks. Anybody know anything about this? I 'd love to hear them! Thanks!
The Iceman
2379 posts
Apr 12, 2015
5:03 PM
I don't think Sam has these...

Booked Sam as drummer for SPAH 99 or 2000. He gave a special seminar where he talked about Little Walter. If he had the demos, would have no doubt played them.

As it was, he brought his home movies (silent) that showed Little Walter at a club - not playing, but stumbling in drunk and then stumbling out.
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Last Edited by The Iceman on Apr 12, 2015 5:24 PM
stupiddingus
2 posts
Apr 12, 2015
8:27 PM
Well that's too bad. At least we have footage of walter being an drunk. thas gud.
The Iceman
2382 posts
Apr 13, 2015
4:16 AM
Latest news on Sam Lay from Corky Siegel...

"Sam Lay, my buddy and drummer (from Siegel-Schwall) is being inducted into the Rock N Roll hall of fame along with the whole Butterfield Blues Band and Ringo Starr. I'm going with Sam and also hanging with my adopted God son - Gabe Butterfield as well as some household names.

When we get back I have two concerts of note celebrating Sam's induction, his 80th birthday, the release of the film; "Sam Lay in Bluesland, and (don't tell Sam yet) the City of Chicago proclaiming "Sam Lay Day " April 30."
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barbequebob
2883 posts
Apr 13, 2015
11:27 AM
Scott Dirks, of the authors, made me a copy of these and these were done months before LW passed away and confirms something that Charlie Musselwhite had said in an interview that after a spell of LW playing wasn't even remotely close to his best, he was now playing more like himself in terms of his own musical standards. It is weird hearing LW as a sideman on My Babe rather than fronting it, like his recording.
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stupiddingus
3 posts
Apr 13, 2015
6:46 PM
So, is there any hope? will we be able to grace our ears on these?
Joe_L
2595 posts
Apr 13, 2015
7:27 PM
I wouldn't be hopeful. I also wouldn't trip about it, unless you are a Little Walter completest.

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Boot
1 post
Apr 15, 2017
9:52 AM
(I realize I'm diggin up an old post, but what the.... )

I was playing (piano) w/ Sammy at the L&H Lounge in the winter of 1967-68, and I never saw Little Walter stroll in. Cotton frequently came in late and sat in for an hour or so, but no Little Walter.

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Last Edited by Boot on Apr 15, 2017 9:53 AM
1847
4066 posts
Apr 15, 2017
10:10 AM
boot... are you alberto gianquinto?
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Boot
2 posts
Apr 16, 2017
12:47 PM
1847 - No, no. Are you referring to 'Albert', who played piano w/ Cotton? I only met him as 'Albert.' If so, he was a good piano player. He showed me a few good licks one night at the Chessmate, in Detroit, the first time I sat in with Sam.
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Joe_L
2691 posts
Apr 17, 2017
1:52 PM
I don't believe that Alberto Gianquinto is still alive.

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1847
4071 posts
Apr 17, 2017
4:40 PM
thank you for the responses
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BnT
48 posts
Apr 18, 2017
9:23 AM
Alberto Gianquinto, since the name popped up, is long passed. A native San Franciscan, he grew up in the Inner Mission district and was equally adept at playing Otis Spann style blues, Bobby Timmons style jazz piano, classical, Latin, and baseball. After playing with Cotton he was with B.B. King and later, Santana. B.B. loved Alberto's playing but drugs got in the way of him staying with B.B.'s band.

Alberto was highly political, talked often about Maoism, and one day I called his house and Ivy (girlfriend? wife?) said, "Oh, he's not here right now. He went over to China this morning and I'm not sure when he's due back." She was as casual as if he'd gone to the store - and this was not at a time when Americans took casual trips and vacations to China.

After their exodus from the James Cotton Band, Alberto and drummer Francis Clay (who replaced Sam Lay in the band) lived in the Bernal Heights-Potrero Hill section of San Francisco, with Luther Tucker on the other side of the Golden Gate Bridge, 30 minutes away in San Anselmo. I picked up Francis Clay on my motorcycle one day and we headed down the hill but stopped so he could sit in with some teens practicing in the driveway at the guitar player's family's house - the Carlos Santana Blues Band. Alberto lived nearby on Bernal Heights.
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Last Edited by BnT on Apr 18, 2017 9:23 AM
Boot
3 posts
Apr 18, 2017
12:13 PM
Cool story, BnT.

After that night that I met Albert in Detroit, Sammy asked me to come to Chicago the following weekend and start-up as his regular piano player. I did. Met up w/ the band at Mother Blues, on Wells St. Stayed the first night at Bob Koester's apartment. Bob was owner of Jazz Record Mart and also Delmark Records, the label that put out Junior Wells' "Hoodoo Man Blues" album.
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Last Edited by Boot on Apr 18, 2017 1:14 PM
WinslowYerxa
1298 posts
Apr 18, 2017
2:15 PM
Alberto was touring with Musselwhite in the early '70s; I remember meeting him at one of Charlie's gigs at Gassy Jack's in Vancouver.
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Boot
4 posts
Apr 18, 2017
3:26 PM
Really? Wow. A couple guys I worked with in a local Detroit Blues band, in '65-6 or so, toured w/ Musslewhite for awhile after that. I've totally lost touch with them, though, so...

Schmall world.
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BnT
51 posts
Apr 19, 2017
10:28 AM
Boot - Nice to remember Bob Koester's kindness - always extending himself, sharing space, knowledge and love of music with so many people. I can remember one summer sleeping for a couple of weeks in the basement of the Jazz Record Mart - Bob showing films every Friday night, and then staying the following summer for a couple of weeks at his & Sue's new apartment on North Lincoln. Robert Jr. was just a baby.
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BnT
Boot
5 posts
Apr 19, 2017
1:30 PM
BnT - I clearly remember going over to Bob's place one night with my wife, Karen, because Bob wanted to have us over to watch "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington". Yup, Jazz Record Mart - 7 W. Grand.

I was just looking over your website. Man, we've played with a LOT of the same guys.

You know, during my stint with Sam, we had slowly changing personnel. Eddie Taylor for awhile, Louis Meyers too. Ernest Johnson (a favorite of mine) on bass, Jerome Arnold on a few gigs. It goes on & on.
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Last Edited by Boot on Apr 19, 2017 1:30 PM


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