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HawkeyeKane
2686 posts
Jan 24, 2015
6:48 PM
So I was alerted by a friend on fb who found this pic posted from NAMM. So is Popper giving up on the SP20??

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chromaticblues
1660 posts
Jan 24, 2015
6:52 PM
The new SP 20's suck!
I might try his harp!
HawkeyeKane
2687 posts
Jan 24, 2015
8:44 PM
Looks like a rebadged Seydel Session to me...
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Ugly Bones Ryan
129 posts
Jan 24, 2015
8:55 PM
It looks like the Special 20, the Suzuki Harpmaster, and the Seydel Session Steel had a baby.
Danny Starwars
31 posts
Jan 24, 2015
9:47 PM
I want one so so bad *stare*
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SuperBee
2356 posts
Jan 25, 2015
12:08 AM
yeah its bugging me...need some more pics..its a lot like the session but ...actually, nothing else could look more like a session than that...
FreeWilly
454 posts
Jan 25, 2015
1:30 AM
Why is there never a blues player who gets a signature model?

Oh yeah, I know. Because they all play Marine Bands...
SuperBee
2358 posts
Jan 25, 2015
2:04 AM
^like
Popculture Chameleon
7 posts
Jan 25, 2015
5:14 AM
MEh- Im a Honer guy Ill stick to my go to harps- The Hohner Rocket-
I have thought about trying the deluxe marine band but Im not very fond of wood combs.
GMaj7
600 posts
Jan 25, 2015
5:45 AM
Clearly a plain ol' Seydel Session w/colored covers.

FreeWilly - that's a good question.
Companies that make signature models to sell to fans and maybe the odd collector, but in high numbers. Blues harmonica players complain endlessly about having enough funds to buy a $35 harp. I doubt the market - small as it is - would have too many players out there who would waste money to buy one named after Sonny or Big or Blind or Little.. etc..




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Greg Jones
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Goldbrick
829 posts
Jan 25, 2015
6:07 AM
Wasnt the Delta Frost named for Frank Frost ?

Its my favorite harp


Last Edited by Goldbrick on Jan 25, 2015 6:09 AM
shakeylee
49 posts
Jan 25, 2015
9:45 AM
i too love the delta frost!! great harp and i get great service.

hering had a signature rod piazza model.i think it was called the pure bronze.you can still find them sometimes,for about $70.i would pay that if i knew ahead of time i liked them :)

i believe hering also had a charlie musselwhite chromatic and a stan harper chromatic.

so,i guess if hering was still in the american market ,they would have blues signiture models.

i wouldn't be surprised if the new popper model was made by tombo or huang.

i also wouldn't be surprised if artists who had a signature model kept on using any harps they wanted as long as they didn't advertise the fact and the money kept rolling in.
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Last Edited by shakeylee on Jan 25, 2015 9:46 AM
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Jan 25, 2015
10:02 AM
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ted burke
60 posts
Jan 25, 2015
10:25 AM
I thought the Delta Frost a high quality, medium priced harmonic. I was very happy with my purchases.
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Thievin' Heathen
475 posts
Jan 25, 2015
10:43 AM
The box says "Fender" on it. There was a thread on the Fender Blues Deville harps awhile back. IIRC, wasn't the general consensus that they most resemble a re-branded MS (Blue Midnight(?))

If Fender and JP be maintaining their Hohner affiliations, despite the resemblance to Sessions, this probably isn't a Seydel.

But, I've been wrong before. Arguably, one of the wrongest people on the planet.
HarpNinja
4008 posts
Jan 25, 2015
12:18 PM
John said the are steel and the covers are enameled so they play faster. Wow!
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Philosofy
650 posts
Jan 25, 2015
1:09 PM
I wonder if they will be available at Guitar Centers. Fender definitely has better distribution than Hohner or Seydel.
GMaj7
601 posts
Jan 25, 2015
4:06 PM
It is just a powder coated Seydel Session Steel..
Nothing special.. except for the name of the player..

Everyone including the guy whose name it bears says that..




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HawkeyeKane
2688 posts
Jan 26, 2015
11:32 AM
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Todd Parrott
1297 posts
Jan 26, 2015
6:26 PM
So Seydel has a partnership with Fender now and are making harps for them? Here's another with stainless steel reeds:

Fender harp with steel reeds
HarveyHarp
636 posts
Jan 26, 2015
9:29 PM
Greg, you are a factory Seydel guy. How can you say nothing special. You should say they are all special. LOL
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GMaj7
602 posts
Jan 27, 2015
7:05 AM
I actually mis-spoke..
It isn't just a Session Steel with Powder Coated covers..
It is a Session Steel with antique covers...

It is very special as an instrument..
It is just nothing new...

Just a business deal between a small German manufacturer and a gorilla in the guitar, amp, and everything else music industry.. sweetened by a famous and talented rock harmonica player..
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HawkeyeKane
2689 posts
Jan 27, 2015
7:25 AM
And there's yet another new Fender model I've not seen until now....called the Midnight Special. This one looks Suzuki-ish. So is Fender basically just going about and soliciting all the major harp manufacturers for OEM deals?

http://www.fender.com/accessories/harmonicas/fender-midnight-special-harmonica/0990704003.html#start=1
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GMaj7
603 posts
Jan 27, 2015
9:33 AM
The Midnight Special is a re-packaged Seydel Solist Pro.

EDITED:
The Midnight Special is a re-packaged 1847 with Solist Pro covers. It advertises stainless steel reeds.


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Last Edited by GMaj7 on Jan 27, 2015 9:34 AM
Thievin' Heathen
479 posts
Jan 27, 2015
10:37 AM
Interesting. I thought JP was Hohner sponsored(?).
harpwrench
975 posts
Jan 27, 2015
10:42 AM
The ultimate high performance harmonica, doesn't get any better than that.

Last Edited by harpwrench on Jan 31, 2015 6:19 PM
Goldbrick
833 posts
Jan 27, 2015
10:57 AM
Its just marketing. Its your choice whether to buy it.

I have learned long ago equipment endorsements mean nothing but publicity.

even back in the 60's Buddy Rich would advertise whoever was paying him and cover up the logos of the brands he actually played in concert.
zackattack
22 posts
Jan 28, 2015
9:49 AM
My working case holds 20 Seydels of various models. I know a Seydel when I see one.
HawkeyeKane
2690 posts
Jan 28, 2015
10:19 AM
"Interesting. I thought JP was Hohner sponsored(?)."

Yeah well...Hohner has really been rearranging or restructuring a lot of areas it would seem. I talked to John Nemeth a couple weeks ago. Hohner dropped him as an endorser. Now what company in their right mind is gonna let go of a currently touring, award winning artist like that? Just dumb.

If they're pulling stuff like that, I can maybe see why Popper dropped Hohner or vice-versa.
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Last Edited by HawkeyeKane on Jan 28, 2015 10:19 AM
GMaj7
604 posts
Jan 28, 2015
10:49 AM
This brings up a very good point about endorser programs.
The harmonica is a low cost and low margin product.
When companies make a business decision to drop an endorser it is most likely that the artist costs them more than he/she is worth.

Hohner has non-compensated satisfied customers that are all over forums that promote their product for no charge so why should they use company funds for what they get for free.

In the harmonica world, you have hundreds (Thousands) of consumers who complain about a $40 Marine Band. Every time you give an endorser harps and or $$, someone else has to pay more.

The Fender deal with John Popper is good for the industry. His name goes on a quality instrument, the price is high, and the whole project is paid for by an amp/guitar company. Pretty good business ..



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shakeylee
68 posts
Jan 28, 2015
11:59 AM
i hadn't thought of it that way.it makes sense.people are going to use hohner whether stars endorse them or not.

maybe suzuki and bushman will get more endorsers!
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sydeman
129 posts
Jan 29, 2015
11:42 AM
Danny Starwars
44 posts
Jan 29, 2015
5:42 PM
I don't know - I might be on the older side of posters here, but the kid in me would still buzz our over a signature model lol.


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Brendan Power
462 posts
Jan 30, 2015
4:09 PM
Yep, the Fender Popper and Midnight Special are definitely Seydel rebranded harps. Well done to Seydel for scoring a deal with such a world-renowned music brand, should keep them busy!

The Midnight Special looks like Howard Levy's harps, wood comb with Special 20-style covers:



Fender also have a couple of lower cost harps, the Blues De-Luxe (ABS injection-moulded lipped comb) and Blues De-Ville (plastic sandwich comb). They look to me as if they're made by the Chinese harmonica manufacturer Easttop.

While we're talking re-branding, I'm surprised there are still folks who don't know that the Delta Frost is simply a Suzuki Harpmaster with a different name.

Last Edited by Brendan Power on Jan 30, 2015 4:11 PM
sonny3
238 posts
Jan 30, 2015
4:14 PM
I think there is a Lee Oskar model with a fender badge on it.For some reason i thought one of those cheaper ones had phospher bronze reeds and may have Suzuki ties.They should just tell us who makes these things.That would help a potential buyer out.
Goldbrick
837 posts
Jan 30, 2015
5:57 PM
enjoyed the popper performance.
even if he appears to be wearing a maternity blouse
Ugly Bones Ryan
131 posts
Jan 30, 2015
8:45 PM
John.......it's brass not tin dude. Seriously.
HarpNinja
4012 posts
Feb 02, 2015
10:28 AM


$99 MAP, so it will cost less than that retail (for example, a Crossover is $110 list, but they sell for way less than that). It isn't just a Session Steel with antique covers, as it has a layer of baked enamel to make it glossy and play faster. It will come in 7 keys. John evidently plays very hard and breaks about 300 Hohner harps a year.

I am not going to lie. This video is very awkward, lol. I wonder what he'll play for the other keys now.
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Last Edited by HarpNinja on Feb 02, 2015 10:37 AM
MN
382 posts
Feb 02, 2015
11:02 AM
The Popper harp and Midnight Special both look interesting, depending on the retail price point (personally, I wouldn't spend an extra dollar over the price of a Session Steel to get baked enamel cover plates).

When we can expect to see the Popper harp and Midnight Special available from our favorite online harp vendors?
HarpNinja
4013 posts
Feb 02, 2015
12:04 PM
I can't get any info on availability, but Seydels typically run around 15% off MSRP or list price, so I am guessing they will run more than a Session but less than an 1847.

So maybe around $80-85 each?
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NiteCrawler .
323 posts
Feb 02, 2015
1:40 PM
Johns advertising for both companys in the vid.He,s gonna have to change up the hat band with some Fender covers after he blows a few out.
Goldbrick
844 posts
Feb 02, 2015
2:24 PM
I thought Phyllis Diller had passed away but I guess she has been covering Namm for the past 28 years
Thievin' Heathen
490 posts
Feb 15, 2015
10:35 AM
That video is a little hokey. He worked with JP over a year to develop a set of covers for a Session Steel? She knows what oxidized antiqued covers taste like? Oh well, it's a trade show. Since they managed to refrain from suggesting I buy a Blues Jr. I'll give JP a pass on the "tin reed" comment.

I did learn something in the video. It looks like JP is using Charlie McCoy's jaw swivel technique on the speed runs. That's good info. Probably been discussed before, but I must of missed it.


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