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Killa_Hertz
46 posts
Dec 27, 2015
8:06 AM
I have not read this whole thread, so this is most likely covered already, But MOST of the new music i buy comes from having heard it streamed first. I suppose it's a double edged sword, but for instance I now own 3 Bob Corritore albums. I just heard him on spotify last week for the first time. I use pandora and spotify pretty much just to find new music. I let it play all day at work and mark any new stuff i wanna buy. You just gotta get these cheap ass people to buy music. Cheap people are gonna be cheap weather or not u get rid of streaming. If you want someone's entire discography you can simply download a torrent of their whole catalog. I think people just don't understand the impact they have on the industry by being cheap and not supporting these artists. Aswell as new music not being made because artist just dont make the money they used to. I know i was guilty of this as a young teen. Somehow we have to get thru to people and get them buying music again. But I find streaming a useful thing. My 2 cents. I feel for u tho Adam. That really sucks.
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Mojokane
850 posts
Dec 27, 2015
3:18 PM
I'm sure this has been said before me...BUT!
incase it has not..
Like Rod Piazza says, ..it's an emergency situation!!!
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kudzurunner
5823 posts
Dec 27, 2015
3:40 PM
Killa: I'm like you. When I hear something I like on Pandora or Bluesville (streaming and satellite radio, respectively), I write down the title and then I go and buy it, 99% of the time as mp3s on Amazon or iTunes. But I'm 57; I'm a guy who used to buy records, then CDs, transforming my purchase-hunger, or purchase-willingness, into mp3 purchases. How old are you, if I might ask? If you're 35 or under, there might be hope. :)

Last Edited by kudzurunner on Dec 27, 2015 3:41 PM
Killa_Hertz
47 posts
Dec 27, 2015
4:53 PM
Im 31. I think people my age still buy music. But for the teens these days, not a chance. Something needs to be done or there will be no new music to stream. I doubt many would aspire to be professional athletes if they knew there was no money in it. Same will surely go for musicians. Everyone needs to get paid. That's why i make it a point to buy good music.
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Last Edited by Killa_Hertz on Dec 27, 2015 4:56 PM
Killa_Hertz
48 posts
Dec 27, 2015
5:06 PM
Wow my post disappeared after editing it.

Anyways. Im 31 Adam. I think people my age still buy music. The generation before me not so much. Teens. ..Not a chance.

Something needs to be done. But it will probably take the coming of no new music to stream before anything is done. People would doubtfully aspire to be professional athletes if they knew there was no money in it. Same will soon go for musicians. Its hard enough as it is making money with your music. Everyone deserves to get paid. That's why I make it a point to continue buy music I like.
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Killa_Hertz
49 posts
Dec 27, 2015
5:10 PM
Most people will have to be Forced to pay for something they can get for free. Even at $.99 a song. People would still rather steal it or stream it.

The question is ... How do you close Pandora's Box? ... No Pun Intended.
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kudzurunner
5839 posts
Jan 04, 2016
1:33 PM
T-Bone Burnett, nobody's fool, agrees with my general take on the situation:

Our Culture Loves Music. Too Bad Our Economy Doesn't Value It

Last Edited by kudzurunner on Jan 04, 2016 1:34 PM
Killa_Hertz
98 posts
Jan 04, 2016
2:54 PM
Wow adam, didn't quite know it was that bad.

On the flip side tho. I hope you'll always be able to download mp3. And own it once u do. Like for instance the playstore is already a lil funny. If u "download" an album on your phone the files don't actually download individually. It's like some wierd compressed file only the playstore app can play. And i like to burn cds for my car. Amazon app is great. One click buy is Evil.

I can't believe artist don't get paid for radio play. I thought those radio bands made cake. Sounds like a futile enterprise making music these days. I feel for yall.


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Killa_Hertz
99 posts
Jan 04, 2016
3:42 PM
Maybe if they based how much artists got paid from streaming on how many likes their songs got. Idk. Hate to get rid of streaming all together.
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kudzurunner
5840 posts
Jan 04, 2016
4:17 PM
I agree with you about one-click buy. Salesmen/women, take note! I buy 90% of my mp3s on Amazon now, not iTunes, because it's so easy.
Sausagescoffer
56 posts
Jan 06, 2016
11:49 PM
Taken from the BBC News web site: "A huge rise in streaming, combined with the continued resurgence of vinyl, helped keep the British music industry buoyant in 2015.
A total of 26.8 billion songs were streamed last year, a rise of 82%, according to trade body BPI.
Vinyl sales jumped 64% to 2.1 million, while retailer HMV says it sold a turntable every minute over Christmas.
Overall, the retail value of UK music rose from £1.03bn in 2014 to £1.06bn, the first increase since 2004."

It looks as though streaming is great for the big, mainstream artists but at the cost of the majority of musicians....IMO.

Vinyl is making a comeback so let's hope mp3's/CD's do too, sooner rather than later.


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