Harp2swing
155 posts
Sep 08, 2014
3:56 PM
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...in a friggin' Amp...
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1847
2143 posts
Sep 08, 2014
4:10 PM
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i played thru one a few weeks ago
it seemed to work fine.
i did not adjust anything, just played it
how it was set up.
it was miked thru the pa.
we used a crystal mic.
i liked it.
lots of guitar players out here use them.
i have a solid state amp i use quite often.
comes in handy.
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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1847
2144 posts
Sep 08, 2014
4:16 PM
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nice playing!
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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Barley Nectar
513 posts
Sep 08, 2014
5:24 PM
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Sounds good, killer actually. Lots of pretty colors in the dark club. I wonder how it will sound 50 yrs from now???
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1847
2146 posts
Sep 08, 2014
10:39 PM
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two of my amps have micro-phonic tubes
who needs that.
the issue i have with the quilter amp is....
you see people endorse it.
however when you go to their concert
they use something else.
that seems like an amp i could use, no bullshit.
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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SuperBee
2192 posts
Sep 09, 2014
5:48 AM
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I need em in mine. They don't work otherwise...some don't work anyway...
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kudzurunner
4942 posts
Sep 09, 2014
7:37 AM
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That's a great sound. On the website, the company claims that the amp has "100 watts per channel." Really? I hope the amp techs here will weigh in on that. I didn't realize that you could blast 100 watts through an 8" Celestion.
http://www.quilterlabs.com/index.php/products/amplifiers/micropro-200-8
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HawkeyeKane
2604 posts
Sep 09, 2014
7:46 AM
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Adam, it says it was chosen out of Celestion's pro audio stock, which would lead me to believe that this thing is more like a heavy duty driver that you might find in a PA type of speaker, rather than a conventional guitar amp speaker.
Quilter has made quite a name for themselves in the last few years in the SS field. As far as I can tell, some of the most well-designed and well-built SS amps out there.
EDIT: Yup...as I suspected, this sucker is a POWERHOUSE of an 8"! Got a 1.75" voice coil on it and a 31 oz magnet!
http://celestion.com/product/110/tf0818/
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Hawkeye Kane - Hipbone Sam
Last Edited by HawkeyeKane on Sep 09, 2014 8:03 AM
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Greg Heumann
2823 posts
Sep 09, 2014
7:53 AM
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Nice playing. The amp sounds great. At least as far as what one can tell from a digitized, compressed internet video through computer speakers. But what I heard is enough to convince me that I'd like to hear it live. Have to find one to try!
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Frank
5242 posts
Sep 09, 2014
8:18 AM
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Almost hard to believe that sound is coming from that amp - it's a miracle :)
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NiteCrawler .
306 posts
Sep 09, 2014
10:00 AM
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I spoke to a Harp player at Harpin For The Kid this past winter who said he sold his Meteor to purchase one of these via a recommondation from James Harmon who was endorsing these a while back.He told me that although it sounded good but didn,t cut through the mix in a larger electric band situation.Bottom line he told me that he sold it and bought a Bassman.I will agree that it does sound good especially with the Harpsucker vids/great playing but I,m just relaying what I was told by a Harp player that owned one.I think they,re pretty pricey I remember him telling me.
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528hemi
448 posts
Sep 09, 2014
10:40 AM
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IF you missed this thread.
http://www.modernbluesharmonica.com/board/board_topic/5560960/3036040.htm
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HawkeyeKane
2605 posts
Sep 09, 2014
10:55 AM
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Looks like a lot of the same points were made back then too...it's intended for guitar, not for harp, yet makes a surprisingly good amp for it. Wonder if anyone ever perhaps tried a LW Break or Attack or Tone+ through one....
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Hawkeye Kane - Hipbone Sam
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barbequebob
2697 posts
Sep 09, 2014
11:07 AM
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Hmmmm!! I've seen Magic Dick using Line 6 amps, which are modeling amps, but I find that their modeling technologies don't sound as good to my ears in any of the amps they've made mainly because the speakers and cabinets color the sound differently than if you were using their famous POD.
So far, from this video, this did a better job modeling the tweed amp sound in its own amp than any of the Line 6 amps do, but I still find it tough to wrap my head around 8" speakers being 100 watts in volume plus projecting well and my experience for years with amps with 8" speakers have been unless you're playing in situations where ultra low volume is needed, 8" speakers tend to project poorly on gigs but record well.
My gripe with anything solid state for years has been the large amounts of harsh odd numbered overtones coming from those amps because until GK started putting output transformers in those amps in the late 90's, the tube warmth was from the fact that tubes distorted to even numbered overtones, which is where the warmth is, but this amp seemingly seems to emulate that, but until I get to trying one in person, I'm not sold on that just yet.
I just looked on their website and they have this with both 10's and 12's, and amps with those sized speakers usually tend to do better in terms of cutting thru the mix and when Sonny Jr. first came out with his amp using 6-8" speakers, cutting thru the mix was a real problem with those amps.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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1847
2149 posts
Sep 09, 2014
11:20 AM
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here is a solid state guitar amp
with an eight inch speaker
we are obviously outside
the amp is not mic'd up
the camera is a good 15 feet away
it does have some of those pesky harsh overtones
but not too bad. i use this amp all the time.
i would love to try a quilter with a 10 speaker
actually two or three of them with my echo unit
one for the dry signal two of them for the wet delay.
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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HawkeyeKane
2607 posts
Sep 09, 2014
11:58 AM
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"...but I still find it tough to wrap my head around 8" speakers being 100 watts in volume..."
Well...that's what they're RATED for at least...
But according to the datasheet on it, it only has an efficiency of 94dB. They have a submodel with an enclosed basket that rates 99dB, but it's really designed as a midrange driver...
Still...I'd love to see what one of those Celestions could do in a 5F2 clone...
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Hawkeye Kane - Hipbone Sam
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tjtaylor
39 posts
Sep 09, 2014
12:22 PM
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Theres a guy in Boston who uses one for harp, it sounds real good for it's size and loud as hell! Quilter now makes one for steel players that has a 15' speaker, I'd like to try that. Oh yeah the guy from Boston uses a dynamic mic with his, we tried a crystal jt-30, it didn't work very well.
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HawkeyeKane
2608 posts
Sep 09, 2014
12:31 PM
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Yeah...by and large, I've noticed dynamic mics tend to work better with SS amps than crystals do.
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Hawkeye Kane - Hipbone Sam
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barbequebob
2698 posts
Sep 09, 2014
12:36 PM
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My guess why a dynamic may work better with SS amps than crystals/ceramics is probably because the impedance from a dynamic mic is much lower than with crystals/ceramics.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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1847
2150 posts
Sep 09, 2014
1:00 PM
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the quilter has a high imp. input
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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Barley Nectar
515 posts
Sep 09, 2014
6:23 PM
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I will agree that 8's don't cut. I recently saw a pro player using 8's. About two thirds of the way back the room, the harp just disappeared. I'm talking 30', and one amp was miced! Was a shame actually. This guy could play...BN
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6SN7
472 posts
Sep 09, 2014
7:37 PM
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I saw and heard one of these Quilter Microo 200 at a gig last summer used by Professor Harp. He plays with an array of pedals and it cut thru the mix just fine. Of course, it was miced up thru the PA, but it was pretty impressive amp and sounded really good. The Professor told me it was a grreat amp and weighed only 18 lbs.
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boris_plotnikov
1000 posts
Sep 14, 2014
3:25 AM
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Very interesting amp!
Concerning digital I completely unhappy with Line6 amp and distortion modelling in my POD HD. It can sounds ok at home monitor speakers, but it sucks on real stage. Too loud when noone plays, while hardly hear myself when band play together. For clean jazzy tone and for FX's my Line6 POD HD sounds good (and I really like some FXs and use them a lot, keep using LoneWolf HarpAttack and HarpBreak for distortions).
The same story about Digitech RP200 (but amps are slightly better in means of tone, while FXs slightly worse in usability).
Recently I tried Fractal Audio Axe FX Mark II and it's incredible rack device, costs about $3000. I know John Popper uses one. Its amp models sounds perfect.
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Excuse my bad English.
My videos.
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HarpNinja
3919 posts
Sep 15, 2014
7:06 AM
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I would LOVE an AXE FX Mark II...jealous that you even got to play one.
If you listen to the last year of BT live recordings, he really doesn't it use it for much beyond a typical guitar rig. The amp models he uses were taken from non-traditional harp rigs too.
What I love best is the routing.
What I've come up with, which is a pretty solid compromise for my limited playing (I consider myself semi-retired) is a Pedal Train Nano with the following:
Xotic EP Booster at 9 o'clock set to vintage for cleans
Lone Wolf HarpBreak for an overdrive pedal
Digitech iStomp set to the rotary
Zoom 100BT for effects
What is missing is an effects loop before the digital pedals to eliminate any tone suck (although it isn't currently an issue).
The 100BT actually models the EP Booster, but the real one is small and I like it infront of the HP to push it harder. The EP is a great pedal.
If you like the Line 6 effects, Boris, you'd dig the Zoom too. I only use the following as I play dry with the EP probably 80% of the time:
Shimmer
Ice Delay
Space
Auto Wah with Octave Down
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Mike
My Website
My Harmonica Effects Blog
Rock Harmonica Lessons
Last Edited by HarpNinja on Sep 15, 2014 7:18 AM
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boris_plotnikov
1001 posts
Sep 15, 2014
11:32 PM
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HarpNinja
I hear John Popper in 2014 sounds relatively close to previous, possible a bit more in front of band (that really shows how quality is Axe FX), I'll listen more. I don't think he really uses amp models, I still see 3 amps onstage (:
You have very compact pedalboard BTW. I don't understand why do you need EP booster. Possible it can be useful for you to get Boss LS-2 or xotic blender and mix your zoom in a parallel.
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Excuse my bad English.
My videos.
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Stokes Bay Slim
52 posts
Sep 16, 2014
4:11 AM
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On the website www.harpsurgery.com the very fine player Steve West Weston says that he used one of these amps on his work with Wilko Johnson and Roger Daltrey for the recent hit album "Going Back Home"
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bloozefish
176 posts
Sep 16, 2014
7:07 AM
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Tony Smith from Florida recently got a Quilter with (I think) a 10in speaker. I haven't heard it, but Tony is very impressed, and he has owned some fine tube amps
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JJ Harper
9 posts
Sep 16, 2014
2:32 PM
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That Quilter sounds pretty good! Not quite the same character as a nice tube amp, but pretty good.
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JJ Harper
10 posts
Sep 16, 2014
2:34 PM
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$900 ??
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bloozefish
177 posts
Sep 18, 2014
11:01 AM
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I should have watched the vid before commenting...that was Tony Smith's quilter we're hearing
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