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why the "Real Blues Forum" is laughable
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Diggsblues
1498 posts
Aug 17, 2014
11:55 AM
I just posted some music on that page.
It has no pictures of the players so I'll
see what happens.

Imagine if there was a face book page called
the real classical music and they crossed out
Andre Watts' picture
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colman
317 posts
Aug 17, 2014
12:05 PM
All the wile people fuss and fight over the past and future of blues and those with love of it ,right now play to their hearts content,and don`t care what anybody says because they`re boogie`n all night long..them changes !!!
jnorem
537 posts
Aug 17, 2014
12:08 PM
@Diggsblues: Is the music you posted listed in one of the discographies cited in the forum mission statement?
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Diggsblues
1499 posts
Aug 17, 2014
2:28 PM
no just in the standard wright on the page
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jnorem
539 posts
Aug 17, 2014
2:35 PM
I don't understand what you mean by "standard wright", sorry.
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Joseph Scott
1 post
Oct 28, 2014
12:03 PM
Hi Adam, I agree with you that anyone who thinks he can know whether Samantha Bumgarner's "Georgia Blues" is "real" blues (like, say, the "real" blues of Elizabeth Cotten, who was about 15 years younger than Bumgarner) without even listening to it, as long as he knows where her ancestors lived, is kidding himself. Just as anyone who thought it would be okay to exclude Charley Price from a "Real Country" discussion without ever listening to Pride would be kidding himself. I mean, duh. Regarding when whites began making blues music, as of the month of May, 1909, Emmet Kennedy was singing a variant of "Poor Boy Long Ways From Home" (learned from blacks on the street of Gretna, Louisiana) on stage, Emile Tosso's band was performing the partly 12-bar instrumental "I Got The Blues" (inspired by a black guitarist Antonio Maggio had heard on a levee in Louisiana in 1907), Son House was seven years old, and Robert Johnson wasn't born yet.

Last Edited by Joseph Scott on Oct 28, 2014 12:12 PM
FastFourier
22 posts
Jan 27, 2018
10:48 PM
It's hard to imagine a "Real Jazz Forum" claiming that all true jazz was created by black musicians. But then, jazz has always been more integrated than blues, going back to the Benny Goodman - Lionel Hampton quartet in the 1930s. Not to mention that "Kind of Blue," considered to be the greatest jazz album of all time, featured Bill Evans, a white piano player, playing along side Miles Davis. So I seriously doubt you would encounter a discussion like this on a jazz forum.
KingoBad
1713 posts
Jan 27, 2018
11:01 PM
Only if it was a 4 year old thread, maybe...
AppalachiaBlues
119 posts
Jan 28, 2018
2:19 AM
Over the past 4 years, Facebook has sunk to new lows. I guess the original point of this post is now moot.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jan/23/never-get-high-on-your-own-supply-why-social-media-bosses-dont-use-social-media?CMP=share_btn_tw
Sundancer
198 posts
Jan 29, 2018
10:41 AM
The Rolling Stones received a Grammy for Blue & Lonesome. I can’t figure out if that proves the fundamentalists right or wrong?????
garry
701 posts
Jan 29, 2018
2:54 PM
It proves that the Rolling Stones are a big name, and it doesn't matter what schlock they put out.

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ted burke
624 posts
Jan 29, 2018
4:58 PM
The Rolling Stones are a great rock and roll band influenced by American blues and soul artists, but they are and always have been a shitty blues band. They won a Grammy merely because they are Incredibly Rich and Famous and childhood idols of the voters; those who nominated these multimillionaires ought to have known better. It's not a matter of race, it's a matter of talent and feel for the material. Since day one, the ugly shadow of minstrelsy has never left their renditions of the blues. They deserve that grammy less than Dylan deserved the Nobel Prize for Literature. Dylan is a songwriter, not a playwright, novelist, short story writer, and certainly not a poet. He's a lyricist. People in literature arts write books, not record albums, as their chief expressive medium. Also, Jagger and Dylan are mind bendingly awful harmonica players. They do not play the blues, they GIVE THE BLUES when you hear them.
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Gnarly
2427 posts
Jan 29, 2018
5:03 PM
Well, there you go, it's my new band name:

"The Ugly Shadows of Minstrelsy"

Available for your next bar mitzvah or bris . . .
Philosofy
864 posts
Jan 29, 2018
7:47 PM
Some years ago I was discussing soul music with someone who had the same idea as the forum that Adam is criticizing. Real soul wasn't, and couldn't, be played by white guys. They might be able to imitate a song already done by real, black guys with soul, but white guys didn't have the capability to do soul like black guys. I told him that he was right, white guys could never do something like Respect or I Never Loved a Man by Aretha, or Mustang Sally by Wilson Pickett. He said that was true. Then I told him that the band in those songs were a bunch of white rednecks. (The Swampers.) The funny thing is, he didn't change his mind.
Goldbrick
1905 posts
Jan 30, 2018
1:41 PM
There were white guys in the Funk Brothers too
Music is music and if race mattered to ability to play across cultures Asians couldnt play classical pieces and Blacks couldnt sing opera

Duane allman added quite a bit to some Wilson Pickett cuts
Thievin' Heathen
952 posts
Feb 01, 2018
5:48 AM
Re: "Over the past 4 years, Facebook has sunk to new lows. I guess the original point of this post is now moot."

Yes, they even deleted me for not using my real name. I had some difficulty resolving my reluctance to use my real name in the land of social media until it finally dawned on me. I can sum it up in 1 statement.., I will not trade what little privacy I have left for a hit of dopamine.
DanP
375 posts
Feb 01, 2018
12:05 PM
The house band for the great soul label Stax, had two white guys. Steve Cropper and Donald Duck Dunn.


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