Frank
4340 posts
May 23, 2014
2:19 PM
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Tom, forgive me - but still not sure I understand the process of adding the one video to your's - can you explain with a little more detail please. what will the finished product be like exactly :)
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didjcripey
747 posts
May 23, 2014
4:04 PM
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@Kudzu: with all due respect, your point about undercutting seems hypocritical.
You taught me more about playing harp than anyone, and it was almost all for free.
I bought lessons from you, but mostly out of appreciation and to support your free lessons.
At a few bucks each, the lessons you sell are way cheaper (and way better) than instructional DVD's I had been paying over thirty bucks each for (double that if I had bought them in music stores, which I never did).
Your commendable approach of 'giving it all away' drastically undercuts hard working professional harmonica teachers.
Thanks again, by the way.
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Lucky Lester
Last Edited by didjcripey on May 23, 2014 4:10 PM
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STME58
831 posts
May 23, 2014
5:06 PM
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Sometimes college professors will make passionate and controversial statements just for the sake of getting their students thinking and discussing at a deeper level.
I don't know if that is the case here, but I have appreciated the discussion that has gone on here. I have been thinking lately about what we, as a society, are willing to pay for and what we aren't. The following tongue in cheek add sums it up with respect to musicians;
"I am a musician with a big house looking for a restaurateur to come to my house to promote his/her restaurant by making dinner for me and my friends. This is not a paying job, but only for special events which will eventually turn into a nightly event if we get a positive response. More fine dining & exotic meals and mixed Ethnic Fusion cuisine. Are you interested to promote your restaurant? Please reply back ASAP."
(from http://thesession.org/discussions/30375)
Why is the above funny and ridiculous, but if it were addressed to musicians instead of restaurateurs it would seem quite normal? Part of the answer can be detected by thinking of going 3 days without food vs three days without music. But I don't think that is the whole explanation.
I am a professional, not a professional musician, but a professional engineer. As I have gotten back into music, and started taking lessons from a well trained musician, I have come to believe that there is just as much, if not more, to learn to become a good musician as there is to become a good engineer. Why is it that a mediocre engineer can make a pretty good living at it but a good musician will need some other source of income to make ends meet? On the other hand, a top paid musician probably makes more than a top paid engineer.
Last Edited by STME58 on May 23, 2014 5:13 PM
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CarlA
506 posts
May 23, 2014
6:31 PM
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There seems to be a high degree of entitlement here on MBH
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CarlA
507 posts
May 23, 2014
6:46 PM
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What's the difference between a musician and a large pizza?
A large pizza can feed a family of four!
Last Edited by CarlA on May 23, 2014 6:47 PM
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dougharps
622 posts
May 23, 2014
6:57 PM
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@didjcripey et al
I expressed an opinion with explanation. I don't note taking offence (in US, offense). I was just voicing my opinion and explaining why it is my opinion. I even noted that I thought that it was a well intentioned request. My question about posting on guitar, keyboard, or saxophone forums stands as stated.
I identified myself as semi-pro, so jnorem, you most likely have more studio experience than I.
Anyone who chooses to is more than welcome to totally disregard my opinions and explanations in any post.
DO WHAT THOU WILT SHALL BE THE WHOLE OF THE LAW.
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Doug S.
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didjcripey
748 posts
May 23, 2014
7:37 PM
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no worries Doug; I hadn't assumed that you had taken offence, it just seemed to me that some of the posters had.
(Do what thou wilt as long as it doesn't needlessly hurt others)
Lucky Lester
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dougharps
624 posts
May 23, 2014
8:03 PM
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I agree with the caveat; it just isn't part of the original quote:
(Do what thou wilt as long as it doesn't needlessly hurt others)
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Doug S.
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1847
1814 posts
May 23, 2014
8:08 PM
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mr cotton.....
i have never been to florida.
i did share some old grand dad, and a "smoke'
with ronnie in "74"
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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1847
1815 posts
May 23, 2014
8:16 PM
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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jnorem
229 posts
May 23, 2014
9:38 PM
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That's some goddamn beautiful music there.
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Call me J
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bluesman007
7 posts
May 24, 2014
7:06 AM
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Hi Frank,
I'm not sure how to explain it any other way really.
You record the harmonica solo and set up a camera to video yourself recording the solo. So ideally you'd have two files: the audio of your solo and a video of you playing that solo.
Doesn't need to be pro looking, or even need to be a proper camera. I've recorded my video parts on my phone for example.
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Frank
4350 posts
May 24, 2014
7:27 AM
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I doubt anyone will do the video, but I was only wrong once this week, so I'm due for another faux pas :)
BTW, how is it going so far ?
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Ugly Bones Ryan
68 posts
May 24, 2014
2:19 PM
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@bluesman007
I'll do it for free. There is a link below showing some of the work I've done. The only question I have is wouldn't I (or anyone else you may give the position to) need the rest of the audio for the song if we'd need to do this? My email is also at the bottom.
All the best,
Ugly Bones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ND3H9ESoo
officialgabe@yahoo.com
Last Edited by Ugly Bones Ryan on May 24, 2014 2:28 PM
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eharp
2165 posts
May 24, 2014
5:37 PM
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Frank- Didn't 2 of our members do this?
I think one did a vid of him singing and playing guitar and the other did the same with the harp parts.
And if I remember correctly, the combined video of one was split screen.
But the vids could be spliced together. Maybe even easier than a split screen.
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Frank
4358 posts
May 24, 2014
6:01 PM
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You are correct Sir...Pistolcat and a singer combined videos...
I don't think Tom has that in mind - If I am understanding him now - video record the process of how you did the harp part for his song, and he'll add that video to his you tube page?
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kudzurunner
4712 posts
May 24, 2014
7:27 PM
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@djcripey: I charge $5 for videos, $2 (and occasionally $1) for tabs. People complain fairly often about having to pay anything for a tab because there are lots of free tabs available. And of course at this point, there are lots of free instructional videos of various sorts available. Which is to say, they're all undercutting ME. But I don't complain. That's the business.
I charge $60 an hour for private lessons, which is more than some and less than others. (Dennis Gruenling charges $75 an hour, I believe, and Billy Branch charges $100.) We're all professionals; we set our own prices. My prices for private lessons clearly aren't undercutting the prices of my peers.
It should go without saying that one-on-one private lessons aren't the same thing, at all, as videos and tabs. So of course the pricing structure is different. My instantly-downloadable video lessons do, of course, undercut the prices--indeed, the whole structure--of mail-order instructional DVDs. I was trying to better serve blues harmonica students by providing them much greater choice of products (one song at a time) much more quickly and conveniently.
@LSC: You and I clearly disagree about the ethics of the situation. I'm surprised that somebody with the trade-experience you describe would make the choice you made, since I see it as a sure way of eroding, over the long term, the value of the services you--and many of us--offer. But perhaps I'm wrong about that. Or perhaps I'm right. We clearly live in a brave new world where the value of music is either next to nothing (you can stream endlessly for almost no money, never purchasing any recordings) or, alternately, the $1 million+ club recently profiled in an article about how much various top-shelf performers make. So I'm forced to say: if the $20 is something you want and you'd like to have a little fun and make bluesman007 very happy at a very low cost to him, go for it. But please don't expect me to apologize to you. I've explained, in my third post above, why I reacted the way I did.
Last Edited by kudzurunner on May 24, 2014 7:30 PM
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jnorem
231 posts
May 24, 2014
7:34 PM
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We live in a world where a musician can do anything he wants; he can play for free or for two sawbucks, and I fail to see how it's anyone's business what he does. It's always been that way and don't kid yourself.
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Call me J
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1847
1827 posts
May 27, 2014
5:39 PM
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that my friends was a fun project!
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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1847
1829 posts
May 28, 2014
3:08 PM
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here is my submission
it was a rush job so the video did not work out
over all i am happy with how it came out,
well the harmonica part anyway.
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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JustFuya
220 posts
May 29, 2014
7:00 PM
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@1847 - Good show. You sound great and I hope we all get a chance to see the finished project.
I gave this a go on another instrument and it was my first video selfie. I found several areas (ie simple posture) where I can improve my performance with just a little conscious effort.
I highly recommend the process for self diagnosis. Some important aspects are undetectable on sound recordings alone.
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