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Jehosaphat
708 posts
Mar 09, 2014
8:55 PM
@Thievin
Yep i probably could of put it better..my point is i prefer my Blues when it is Black.
There has been a lot of threads on just this subject..

"get out more"
I have visited 37 countries and lived and worked in 3 of them
Where have you been?
Goldbrick
332 posts
Mar 09, 2014
9:40 PM
Close your eyes and pretend they are black if it helps , I guess.

Maybe " we " cant be post racial but every individual can be if they choose not to see skin color.
Granted , its easier in some parts of the world than others.
But I don't see race to be a factor in if music is good or bad unless you feel the need for your vision of authenticity.
Probably anybody over a certain income level, or in a good relationship no longer plays "real" blues either

Sunday is over - no more preaching from me.
barbequebob
2490 posts
Mar 10, 2014
12:07 PM
@dunkeBerryman --- I agree with you on the fact that society is still from being post racial, as I am of bi-racial heritage myself and at times still get some nasty racist crap coming my way (I am Fillipino from my father's side, Polish/Russian/English/Jewish from my mother's side and my parents married during WWII, when many states in this country, it was illegal to have interracial marriages) and tho it is far better than it was some 30 ears ago, it definitely hasn't gone away entirely by any means.

When the post about "racial baggage" being a US thing was posted, it seriously incensed m me because racism is far from being US baggage only and all one has to do in more recent history is look at South Africa with its long history of Apartheid.

While I was on the road with Luther Guitar Junior Johnson in Canada back in 1988, one of the places we stayed at was an entire house near Kitchener, Ontario, just a few blocks from a LaBatt's beer brewery and this guy who we had never met before we assumed was a blues fan hung out with his after the show there, and we were getting drunk (and a few were getting high), and then all of a sudden, he asks Luther, "You mind if I call you nigger?"

It made me drop my jaw and in seconds, I was about to beat that guy's sorry ass into the ground, when Luther stopped me from doing so, and then he said to the guy, "I gots a name, use it!!!!" The guy was definitely not from anywhere in the US at all, as I'm quite familiar with nearly every accent/dialect from the US and his accent was clearly very Canadian, and most likely from somewhere in Quebec.

Now, anyone who says racism is just US baggage, I have now totally blown that myth up into smithereens.

My apologies, Adam, for having to say that, but hopefully, I'll never have to say anything about that again.

Now, as far as the black music sound. From my own personal experience over many years, the black music sound, especially reggae, blues, jazz and gospel, the groove always tends to be played behind the beat and white musicians (unless they've been schooled in black music thru mainly actual working experience or hanging with musicians with such experience) usually have a tendency to play ahead of the beat, which is essentially a rock groove and whenever you play blues ahead of the beat, it becomes the music of a white man and totally loses the feel of real blues.
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DukeBerryman
219 posts
Mar 10, 2014
1:55 PM
@BBQbob My jaw dropped just reading that. I used to perform improv with a comedy group here in LA. There was a black guy named Freddie in the group. One show, we were doing a lot of interaction with the audience, and they kept calling him "the black guy". We also had a Latina, a Tejano, a ginger, and a few white guys like me. I had to stop the show, and in a funny way said to the audience "His name is Freddie - remember?" By the way, great mix - I'm Irish/German/Scottish/English. And I live in LA, so who knows what my next generation will be.
JInx
746 posts
Mar 10, 2014
2:09 PM
"Yep i probably could of put it better..my point is i prefer my Blues when it is Black"-Jehosaphat

A statement can't get more racist then that!


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Last Edited by JInx on Mar 10, 2014 2:09 PM


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