Frank
3908 posts
Feb 25, 2014
5:27 AM
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Are there any videos of Jason Ricci AND Dennis Gruenling TOGETHER on the same stage tearin it up :)
That would be a great harmonica touring show!
Last Edited by Frank on Feb 25, 2014 5:29 AM
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harpdude61
1975 posts
Feb 25, 2014
6:35 AM
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I'm with on this one Frank. Two different style players, but two high energy, passionate, fun to watch, dynamic players that can bring the house down.
Reserve me a front row seat for this show Frank!
I watch that 2nd video every time I think I'm getting pratty good. Unreal!
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laurent2015
612 posts
Feb 25, 2014
8:04 AM
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That guy could inspire sax-alto players (it's usually told the contrary)...superhuman!
Mooncat, were you born on the earth?
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Frank
3912 posts
Feb 26, 2014
5:39 AM
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Any video of these guys on the same stage grinded the gears? If not, it must be some kind of conspiracy? All these years and nothing, this needs to be investigated :)
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tmf714
2437 posts
Feb 26, 2014
6:31 AM
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I may have something from the Pat Ramsey benefit at Knuckleheads-I will check.
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The Iceman
1483 posts
Feb 26, 2014
6:33 AM
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At a Jam Camp Gindick style in Atlanta in, around 2005, Ricci, Gruenling and I were teachers.
Jason and Dennis did a little playing together, but I don't believe anyone recorded this event.
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The Iceman
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kudzurunner
4567 posts
Feb 26, 2014
7:58 AM
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At SPAH in Milwaukee in 2007, I sat on a stage at some panel or clinic. The panel consisted of Jason, Dennis, Joe Filisko, me, and one other guy whose name I can't recall--or perhaps two other guys. If there were video of that panel, you might get some duo action.
But yes, Frank: that would be an excellent show, and I encourage Jason and Dennis to make it happen!
Last Edited by kudzurunner on Feb 26, 2014 8:02 AM
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tmf714
2438 posts
Feb 26, 2014
9:20 AM
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I found it!! Will be uploading today-Jason,Dennis and Pat Ramsey together onstage August 2005,Knuckleheads at the Pat Ramsey benefit-
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tmf714
2439 posts
Feb 26, 2014
1:40 PM
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Gnarly
924 posts
Feb 26, 2014
2:20 PM
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Good lord in heaven--does it get any better than this?
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harpwrench
781 posts
Feb 26, 2014
3:11 PM
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That was at the blow off for SPAH, I was there! First time for me. I met a whole bunch of harp players including all these guys. Didn't know Pat was ill at that time. Brings back memories. Reach Mann offered the tapes later on harp-l to raise funds for Pat.
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tmf714
2441 posts
Feb 26, 2014
3:33 PM
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That's how I got the tapes-I donated to the cause,and got to meet Pat here in Florida-he was playing 5 minutes away from my house. We talked about a lot of things-he loved Jason and Dennis' playing-and he was a great player himself. That was the first and last time I would see Pat-Godspeed to him.
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1847
1524 posts
Feb 26, 2014
4:19 PM
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was that a benefit for pat
or were you trying to kill him off
good god almighty!
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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harpdude61
1976 posts
Feb 26, 2014
4:33 PM
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Maaaaan! That goes to youtube favorites real fast!
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walterharp
1328 posts
Feb 26, 2014
5:34 PM
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That was great, really interesting. Something to see how Ricci went down the road that Ramsey blazed, so they were closer to the same wavelength there, and Gruenling was heading down a different path, so set a real contrast in the trading bit. That side-by side bit might be the clearest demo of how much Ricci really owes to Ramsey.. you can tell from their individual stuff, but it just jumps out so strongly in this context.
love and peace to all on earth!
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garry
498 posts
Feb 26, 2014
9:40 PM
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It's not video, and it's not Dennis, but there's a pretty great (though dated at this point) recording of Jason and Adam on archive.org
The "Adam and Jason Boogie" is outstanding.
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Frank
3917 posts
Feb 27, 2014
4:38 AM
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Just what the doctor ordered, thank you Tom - I got to see Pat and his band in a bar the size of a shoe box- he had two amps in tandem and proceeded to pound the livin shi# out the blues in his own unique way for the next 3 hrs, cool act to see live and up close - he was something else :)
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The Iceman
1489 posts
Feb 27, 2014
5:19 AM
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Whoo hoo. Hot stuff.
Pat sounds like a combination of Jason speed plus Dennis' linear ideas/tone, although Pat was around first.
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The Iceman
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walterharp
1329 posts
Feb 27, 2014
7:49 AM
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can you explain what you mean by linear, Iceman? I have a tougher time following the logic of Gruenling.. but that is what is appealing. I think I remember Adam saying at some point he had difficulty "decoding" what he does...
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rogonzab
480 posts
Feb 27, 2014
8:01 AM
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THXS garry!!
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Pistolcat
597 posts
Feb 27, 2014
8:32 AM
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FAN-TAS-TiC! That was stone-cool!
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Pistolkatt - Pistolkatts youtube
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The Iceman
1492 posts
Feb 27, 2014
8:39 AM
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To me, linear ideas are actual musical phrases (not long streams of notes) that are established, repeated and then begin an extrapolation of the basic idea (changing a note or two, call/response type development, or permutating the idea so that it still has a recognizable arc but moves into different territory).
The new "young lion" style of playing favors rapid notes that keep moving forward without developing variations on the theme.
Dennis' style grew from his love of swing style saxophone soloing - listen to Stanley Turrentine, especially when he recorded w/Jimmy Smith.
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The Iceman
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Johncn
74 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:27 PM
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Hi,
Thanks, tmf714. It was great to SEE the interaction and see if my guesses were correct for who was playing each section.
I know others here know more about these recordings than I do, but the entire evening is a great set of recordings that have been a playlist for me for qyiute a while. Better yet? They are available as free and legal downloads here:
https://archive.org/details/jrnb2005-08-16.akg481.flac16
The links go to several file formats. FLAC is high end codec, but if you have iTunes or a player that does not dig those, there is a link to the MP3 / VBR and Ogg versions, too.
Finally, here is poster from the blow off:
https://ia600201.us.archive.org/6/items/jrnb2005-08-16.akg481.flac16/blowout05.jpg?cnt=0
Here is the set list from my meta tag. I understand from some other posts that Joe Filisko's stuff was removed from the archive at (presumably) his request.
================ SPAH Blow Off Set List - 8/16/2005 ==========
Jason Ricci and New Blood
2nd Annual Harmonica Blowout
Knuckleheads
Kansas City, Missouri
Source: AKG c480b/ck61 > Dmod UA-5 > JB3
Transfer: JB3 > Firewire > PC > Sound Forge 7.0 > Flac (level 5)
Taped by: kcmule and momule
Transferred/mastered/seeded by: kcmule
4 hours, 13 minutes, and 17 seconds worth
of finished product that sits on 5 discs.
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Set One: (49:58)
Jason Ricci and New Blood
01 Baked Potato
02 Mellow Down Easy
03 Blue & Lonesome
04 Sissy Strut
05 Intros
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Set Two: (47:44)
Joe Filisko
01 Train imitation Medley
02 ??
03 Black Pine Waltz
04 Harmonica Rag
05 Lost John/Fox Chase Medley
06 Man Trouble Blues
07 Medley (of crossharp tunes)
08 ??
09 ??
10 Outro
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Set Three: (64:21)
01 Hip Shake 1,2,3,4
02 Tuning/Intro/etc
03 ?? Roller Boy 1,2,3,5,6
04 Intro
05 ?? I'm So Sorry 2,3,5,6,7
06 Tuning/Intro/etc
07 Shake Rattle and Roll 2,3,5,6,8 - Dedicated to Big Joe Turner
08 Conversation
09 Cross Cut Saw 2,3,5,6,15
10 Conversation
11 Lollypop Mama 2,3,5,6,9
12 Conversation
13 Hoochie Coochie Man / Early In The Morning 2,3,5,6,10,13
??? When did Brian from TX leave the stage ???
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Set Four: (47:45)
01 ?? 2,3,6,8
02 Keep It Up 2,3,6,11,12
03 Love Me Like a Man 2,3,6,11,12
04 Gonna Spoil Ya 2,3,6,11,12
05 Fine & Mellow 2,3,6,11,12
06 ?? 2,3,6,11,12
07 Baby, What You Want Me To Do? 2,3,6,11,12
08 Outro and Pat Ramsey Story
---Set Five: (43:29)
Pat Ramsey
01 Intro
02 Walkin' by Myself
03 I Need Money
04 Georgia Swing
05 Blues is a Felling
06 Too Many Drivers
07 ?? 1,2,3,4,11,14
Musicians:
1 Jason Ricci - Harp, Vocals
2 Shawn Starsky - Guitar
3 Steve Johnson - Drums
4 Willie ?? - Bass
5 Dave "Elmo" Bailey - vocals
6 Brian from TX - Bass
7 Nicolas Fouquet aka, froggy - harp
8 Allen Holmes - harp
9 Jimmie Meade - harp
10 Buzz Krantz - vocals
11 Dennis Gruenling - harp
12 Gina Fox - vocals
13 Joe Filisko - vocals, harp
14 Pat Ramsey
15 Gino Bambino - harp
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tmf714
2443 posts
Feb 27, 2014
12:37 PM
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My pleasure -
I have the Filisko set and it is killer-too bad it was removed from the archives-
Last Edited by tmf714 on Feb 27, 2014 12:37 PM
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walterharp
1330 posts
Feb 27, 2014
1:44 PM
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@iceman, I see what you mean. To my ear the individual phrases that Gruenling builds on are quite unique, but the way he builds through a song is logical. That is not as well suited to the format of that video...though it does offer good contrast
The Ricci Ramsey licks are lots of notes connecting what seem to me to be usually more straightforward phrases, with those serving as anchors or destinations for structure of the runs...
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tmf714
2444 posts
Feb 27, 2014
1:49 PM
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interesting how Dennis joins Pat at the end for the few last licks,almost forcing Jason to board-
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