MindTheGap
175 posts
Jan 18, 2014
5:21 AM
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My teacher suggested listening to some particular singers to learn how to phrase nicely on the harp. I reckon sound like Robert Smith out of the Cure at the moment i.e. a bit mumbly and drifty, and I'd like to sound like sharp and on the button like, say, Sinatra. Ac...opulco Bay.
Who do you sound like/would like to sound like?
Any suggestions of exemplary phrasing in singers welcome.
(For avoidance of doubt, I do like The Cure).
Last Edited by MindTheGap on Jan 18, 2014 5:53 AM
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walterharp
1288 posts
Jan 18, 2014
8:44 AM
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I have just the other day played along with that pop song royals by lorde... some good timing on minor scales, lays out good on g harp
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The Iceman
1383 posts
Jan 18, 2014
4:36 PM
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Frank Sinatra is one to study regarding phrasing.
Ella Fitzgerald singing blues was one of my first vocal influences on harmonica
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nacoran
7502 posts
Jan 18, 2014
10:50 PM
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I use lyrics to remember rhythms sometimes. It can be easier to remember 'Shave and a haircut, two bits' than the number and variety of notes.
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Rubes
782 posts
Jan 19, 2014
1:53 AM
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I must say......a lot of those jazz ladies were right on the 'button'........Ella....Nina.....and some more contemporaries like Amy.....and a cast of many...... ;~}
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Ringo
32 posts
Jan 19, 2014
4:40 AM
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would recommend that you rather tryed to play two some music with saxafon, - because it is very similar to the harp.
Try it
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Pistolcat
572 posts
Jan 19, 2014
9:29 AM
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Nina Simone has a very nice take on work song. Listen to her singing and then try to emulate her with a harp!
The other way around: listen to Miles Davies playing 'summer time' and close your eyes imagining someone singing the words with his articulation and phrasing.
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TBird
48 posts
Jan 23, 2014
6:53 PM
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I just stumbled on this video. (Probably because I have recently developed a little crush on Joss Stone!) It struck me as a great lesson on: It's not what you say. It's how you say it.
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MindTheGap
179 posts
Jan 24, 2014
4:45 AM
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TBird - Just personally I'm not a fan of the highly-embellished style of singing. I know it's very popular now and certainly it's heartfelt and expressive. Just my personal taste. But it's a good post as it informs the thinking. Is there a blues harp player that does the equivalent?
Pistocat - I've been listening to much Nina Simone, and coincidentally heard a documentary about her. They mentioned how she was fully in control of the space, what with playing and singing at once. Brilliant of course, but difficult from a number of points of view! Maybe you need to be a one man band to carry that off.
I remember reading how Sting said he was in control in the Police because with singing and playing bass at once, he owned the top and bottom line.
I'm going to focus on Ella next.
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The Iceman
1408 posts
Jan 24, 2014
8:05 AM
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The highly embellished style of singing may be an outgrowth of that Orlando Boy Band style.
If you want unembellished tell the story style of singing, check out Tony Bennett.
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Martin
605 posts
Jan 24, 2014
12:45 PM
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You can start with Frank Sinatra, continue with Frank Sinatra and stay with Frank Sinatra.
The stuff he did, up till the end of the 60´s, "wrote the book" as they say.
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MindTheGap
180 posts
Jan 24, 2014
11:37 PM
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Tony Bennett - ah yes, good call. Powerful and straightforward. That's what I'm talking about.
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nacoran
7508 posts
Jan 25, 2014
12:58 AM
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I heard or read something about the return of the highly embellished singing style being linked to Mariah Carey arriving on the scene back whenever that was, with her huge range and flute register work. It's certainly more ornamented than say, even Whitney Houston was. All the pop Diva's use a lot more notes now.
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The Iceman
1410 posts
Jan 25, 2014
3:28 AM
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I like to call the highly embellished singing style 'The American Idol Syndrome'.
It may be the easiest way to impress that audience within the first 30 seconds. That audience and show relies on short attention span. If you can't impress them within the first minute, you get 'X'd out and booted off.
This attitude is a large part of the downfall of Western Civilization happening now. :)
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kudzurunner
4514 posts
Jan 25, 2014
6:10 AM
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Just came across a DVD that promises to teach you how to sing blues like a blues singer:
http://mvdb2b.com/s/BLUESVOCALSULTIMATEBEGINNERSERIES/908103DVD
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colman
293 posts
Jan 25, 2014
6:24 AM
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assimilating Sam Cook,and Howlin` Wolf phrasing you would be in the cool and heat of blues...
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