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wolfkristiansen
234 posts
Nov 17, 2013
7:20 AM
Iceman's "Best Singer in the World?" topic inspired me. Thank you, Iceman.

Here's a topic that fits the forum more closely. Amongst harmonica players, who's the best singer?

I have three nominations, in order of singing talent. They are are all dead, unfortunately--

Junior Parker



Howlin' Wolf



Little Walter



Little Walter, whose instrumental skills we talk about incessantly, was also a great singer. Muddy Waters said he was his favorite singer. I don't have them in front of me, but I'll find Muddy's exact words if anyone needs to delve into this. I agree with Muddy, he is (was) a beautiful singer.

Somebody will point to singer/harmonica players that aren't dead. This is good. Help me out. Annie Raines? John Nemeth? Sugar Ray Norcia? Stevie Wonder?

Cheers,

wolf kristiansen
Joe Strouzer
41 posts
Nov 17, 2013
8:36 AM
On your dead list how about Big Mamma Thornton?!


Alan Blind Owl Wilson:



I really like Captain Beefheart too, very similar to Wolf though....



Are we off topic-ing for non blues players too?

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messy ventura
97 posts
Nov 17, 2013
9:20 AM
I saw Paul Butterfield in ' 70 and was blown away by his vocal prowess. I believe he was a great admirer of Jr Parker & Carey Bell.
MP
2987 posts
Nov 17, 2013
9:58 AM
Sam Myers
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MP
2988 posts
Nov 17, 2013
10:12 AM
Darrel Nulisch is really good too. Sort of sounds like Singer/guitarist Duke Robbilard.
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Wendell
21 posts
Nov 17, 2013
11:20 AM
James Harman
Tad Robinson
Curtis Salgado

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Mirco
21 posts
Nov 17, 2013
11:45 AM
If Mick Jagger counts, he's got my vote.
Michael Rubin
826 posts
Nov 17, 2013
2:19 PM
Sugar Ray Norcia, John Nemeth, Kim Wilson. When he could sing, James Cotton.
groyster1
2466 posts
Nov 17, 2013
2:24 PM
butterfield was the bestIMHO..great blues voice.....there is no mention of rice miller here.......kind of surprisied........the wolf?what more can you see about him....sang,played guitar,blew harp,great showman..........
kudzurunner
4380 posts
Nov 17, 2013
2:35 PM
I like a lot of the names that have been suggested, and I'll add a few additional names to flesh out a working list of my faves:


Junior Parker
John Nemeth
Paul Butterfield
Sugar Blue
Billy Branch
Sugar Ray Norcia
James Harman
Curgis Salgado
Sam Myers
Darrell Nulisch
Tad Robinson
Howlin' Wolf
Mitch Kashmar

Cotton never really could sing, even when he had vocal chords.

Little Walter I'm not sure about. His vocal performances are memorable, but I think of him more as a stylist than a singer. Junior Wells, too. Neither of them could really hold a note and make it sound good. Stop for a moment and think about that; think about them in comparison with Junior Parker, who really COULD sing, and the difference should be obvious. Of course Junior Wells was a master showman and he could bring it down so low that you could smell it (as he put it). He was a great front-man, but not much of a singer. Some might put Billy Branch in the same category: more showman, front-man, and stylist. I think there's more there than that, but some might say that. Sugar Blue, on the other hand, can f-ing sing his ass off.

Last Edited by kudzurunner on Nov 17, 2013 2:36 PM
nacoran
7351 posts
Nov 17, 2013
2:44 PM
Poor Bob Dylan isn't going to win this one either!

Voice can be such a subjective thing.

Some singers who play harmonica who I like (not saying they have great voices, just that I like their voices). Not blues guys, per se.

Steven Tyler
Axl Rose
Eddie Vedder
Alanis Morissette
John Lennon

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groyster1
2468 posts
Nov 17, 2013
3:12 PM
no doubt about singing really helps a harp player.......I really think the majority of us fall short...myself no doubt
Moon Cat
298 posts
Nov 17, 2013
5:18 PM
Just dig on Pat here!

Komuso
210 posts
Nov 17, 2013
5:26 PM
Hey don't forget some of the seminal blues singer/songwriters who also happened to be rack harpers... Jimmy Reed & Slim Harpo!

and lets give a shout out to Neil Young who can actually play it too.

and JimiLee
and Pat O'Brien
and...and...
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sonny3
86 posts
Nov 17, 2013
5:38 PM
Sonny Terry, Alan Wilson, Wolf, Rice Miller
SuperBee
1535 posts
Nov 17, 2013
6:44 PM
Does Johnny Winter qualify as a harp player? I have in mind that he played on that first Columbia album he made. He sure could sing. The vocal he does on drown in my own tears still gets me every time.
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sonny3
87 posts
Nov 17, 2013
7:06 PM
Sure Johnny Is in there.Oh , Pat could sing and play dang! I'll throw in Roscoe Holcomb too.
GamblersHand
473 posts
Nov 18, 2013
2:15 AM
Don't think that Johnny Sansone has been mentioned
Michael Rubin
827 posts
Nov 18, 2013
8:30 AM
Kudzu, I am amazed that you think Cotton couldn't sing. He is one of my favorite singers of all time. I also think you are wrong about Junior, but it doesn't bother me as much.
kudzurunner
4381 posts
Nov 18, 2013
9:02 AM
We disagree. It happens.
Rgsccr
211 posts
Nov 18, 2013
9:40 AM
Paul deLay, Carey Bell
boris_plotnikov
894 posts
Nov 18, 2013
9:50 AM
For today John Popper is my favorite singer and favorite harmonica player at the same time. Also possible not my favorite songwriter, but one of.
I also really like Paul deLay's singing.
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barbequebob
2382 posts
Nov 18, 2013
10:13 AM
Amazing how many of you have left out George Harmonica Smith here.
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mojojojo
136 posts
Nov 18, 2013
10:24 AM
Steven Tyler (great singer), Huey Lewis (very good singer), and even Bruce Willis (very passable singer) are consistently underrated harp players.

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bloozefish
134 posts
Nov 18, 2013
10:28 AM
how 'bout William Clarke?
droffilcal
54 posts
Nov 18, 2013
1:17 PM
Stevie Wonder was mentioned -- he's not a blues player, and he plays chromatic, but how can he not be the undisputed singer/hamonica player ?

Probably because he pretty much transcends all category of instrument classification and just is "Stevie".
Gnarly
785 posts
Nov 18, 2013
4:33 PM
I was surprised when I heard Bill Barrett sing, I think he is pretty good.



He is coming back to the States at the end of the week.

Last Edited by Gnarly on Nov 18, 2013 4:38 PM
tmf714
2178 posts
Nov 18, 2013
4:41 PM
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1847
1311 posts
Nov 18, 2013
5:10 PM


i saw james cotton perform here at the galaxy theater
it holds well over 500 people
i tipped the maitre d he put me in the front row
i thought i died and went to heaven, what a powerful voice
he had the band turn down, he stepped back from the mic
it was just him and his voice, nothing more.
when he sang
if you know you don't love me... why in the world won't you let me be
you could hear a pin drop. his voice filled the entire room.
and this is a very large room. the crowd went nuts!
i have been to many many concerts, most of them are long forgotten
this was something i will never forget, i had tears welling up in my eyes!
galaxy theater


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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"

Last Edited by 1847 on Nov 18, 2013 5:13 PM
Rick Davis
2707 posts
Nov 18, 2013
5:26 PM
RJ Mischo ain't bad.

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1847
1312 posts
Nov 18, 2013
7:38 PM
super bee is absolutely correct... johnny winter qualifies
and absolutely trumps all comers
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
1847
1313 posts
Nov 19, 2013
8:51 AM


he has a harmonica in this video
hanging from the rack.
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
Greg Heumann
2465 posts
Nov 19, 2013
9:27 AM
#1 - Curtis Salgado
#2 - Kim WIlson
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kudzurunner
4382 posts
Nov 19, 2013
10:12 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking I may have judged Cotton a little too harshly as a singer. I still wouldn't put him on my list (above), but I like what 1847 has posted. I guess my judgment was slightly skewed by the fact that in the handful of times I've seen him over the past 12-15 years, his singing voice has been shot (the early part of that period) and totally gone (the past five years or more). It was on the way out back in the early 90s. But it's unfair to judge him for how he's been singing, or barely singing, or not singing, over the past 20 years. He was pretty good before that.

Of course he still is and has always been a monster on the harp. Arguably my single favorite harp player and one of the two or three strongest influences on my playing. This thread isn't about that, and I trust that we all understand that.


I'll add that I disagree with the prevailing view of certain singers. I've never thought that Koko Taylor was a particularly good singer (although I do like the original recording of "Wang Dang Doodle") and certainly not in the last two decades of her life. She literally couldn't hold a note. All she could do was roar and, when she tried to belt, watch as her voice shrank to a strangled sound and then disappeared. She was a one-trick pony whose trick had run out. Nobody wanted to say anything about it, but it was painfully obvious, even as she continued to be celebrated as "queen of the blues." Her vocal gifts were exceeded by any number of her peers, including Francine Reed, Valerie Wellington, Toni Lynn Washington, and Bonnie Raitt. But that's another argument!

Here's one of my favorites. Her name is Roach. She sings with a group called Cafe R&B

Last Edited by kudzurunner on Nov 19, 2013 10:24 AM
SuperBee
1538 posts
Nov 19, 2013
12:10 PM
I enjoyed that song but I didn't hear a whole lot of harmonica-playing.
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kudzurunner
4385 posts
Nov 19, 2013
12:35 PM
Listen, ah......harder. :)

You're right, though. Sorry for the hijack. As you were, gentlemen.
atty1chgo
745 posts
Nov 19, 2013
12:36 PM
Curtis Salgado can sing.

tmf714
2183 posts
Nov 19, 2013
1:16 PM
Sugar Ray Norcia

kudzurunner
4386 posts
Nov 19, 2013
2:28 PM
I love Sugar Ray. He's got that honey in his voice.
garry
471 posts
Nov 21, 2013
5:31 PM
Not so much in a blues vein, but Grant Dermody's singing on Crossing That River is wonderful.

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JTThirty
231 posts
Nov 21, 2013
6:58 PM
Great group of singers y'all tossed out there. I have to agree with most to the assessments on this post. Speaking of Sam Myers, I interviewed him for an article in the long defunct Blues Access Magazine years back. His business card simply read: Sam Myers...Blues Singer. He took more pride in that than his harp playing. I've always loved Slim Harpo's vocals, and Jimmy Reed's. To me that's the reason that they crossed over to the pop charts. Vocals that oozed a bit of sexuality.
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doctom
16 posts
Nov 22, 2013
2:16 PM
Robert Plant....cool harp solo in You Shook Me from Zep 1.
Gnarly
1646 posts
Feb 06, 2016
6:40 AM
Steve Marriott--check it out!
Short solo after Peter Frampton's jazzy solo

Last Edited by Gnarly on Feb 06, 2016 6:46 AM
cyclodan
135 posts
Feb 06, 2016
9:16 AM
Ya know, I think Gnarly hit on my FAVORITE harp playin' singer! Probably the best of the Brit rockers when it comes to harp too.
cyclodan
136 posts
Feb 06, 2016
9:31 AM
Oh yeah and thanks for reviving this thread...I missed it before and I would have not heard of Cafe R&B, and that would be a shame. I'm now watching everything I can find on you tube. Roach is awesome!
kham
58 posts
Feb 06, 2016
9:53 AM
Steve Marriner in case no one has heard him. In this video Harry Manx (also great singer and harp player of o.k caliber) and Steve Marriner rock out Please Don't Go and at the 3 minute mark Steve take sit into Help Me and shows off his tremendous vocals to much applause. Another one of those under recognized or lesser known players. His band is Monkey Junk and are worth checkin out.

JustFuya
841 posts
Feb 06, 2016
12:50 PM
I'm partial to those who convey heart. I think my all time favorite is Ray Charles.



Love Brownie McGhee also.



EDIT to add: I know I'm stretching the harp concept w/ these guys but they certainly did a lot for the cause. It's Superbowl shopping time and I'm in a rush or I'd have chosen better samples.

Last Edited by JustFuya on Feb 06, 2016 1:03 PM
Gnarly
1647 posts
Feb 06, 2016
1:08 PM
@cyclodan You are more than welcome--I just watched the documentary on Steve Marriott on YouTube, and remembered that harp was one of his instruments of choice.
I'm a little different, not primarily a harp player, but I loved the British blues guys--I always thought Help Me was by Ten Years After LOL
And Peter Green played some harp, not a great vocalist but certainly a big influence on me as a musician.

Last Edited by Gnarly on Feb 06, 2016 1:08 PM
dougharps
1151 posts
Feb 06, 2016
2:40 PM
At SPAH I really enjoyed when Dale Spaulding (current Canned Heat singer) sang at the Soiled Dove harp blow off with Jimi Lee. Dale has a great voice and good harp chops. Dale's brother Larry is a pretty good singer and harp player, too, but not a full time professional musician.

RJ Mischo is a pretty good singer/harp player, too!
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Last Edited by dougharps on Feb 06, 2016 2:42 PM
gutbucket
19 posts
Feb 06, 2016
3:32 PM
steve guyger gets my vote, hit youtube and check out summadat


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