BronzeWailer
1086 posts
Jul 23, 2013
3:52 PM
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Hi all. I'd like to share a song I wrote based on a book my wife wrote with her friend. It's based on real-life examples of Lord of the Flies type situations; the dark themes (murder, fighting, cannibalism, drunken despair, The Beast etc.) suit the blues well, in my opinion.
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mr_so&so
709 posts
Jul 24, 2013
10:03 AM
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Nice one, BronzeWailer. I'm also writing songs now, and singing them, so I know the challenges, especially when singing and playing solo.
Your song sounds like a 12-bar blues structure where you are improvizing the fills and a chorus or two. As a point of discussion, I'd suggest that it needs more structure than just the 12BB form. When you are carrying the whole thing, I think the harp lines could benefit from a hook riff or two that get repeated and glue the whole song together more, perhaps related to the sung melody?
As a fledgling song-writer myself, it would be a good use of this forum to have a thread dedicated to discussing voice-and-harp arrangements. Thanks for taking the risk of sharing your song. I will follow suit, and I hope forum members can start sharing ideas on song-writing.
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BronzeWailer
1087 posts
Jul 24, 2013
2:25 PM
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Thanks for the input Mr So & So. Good ideas. My teacher also said each song had to have a signature riff so they don't sound too same-y. I will have to learn more theory so I can't expand beyond the 12 bar format. I have also played this song with one of my guitar guys on the street a few times and it works OK, but I like to have the flexibility of doing the whole thing solo as well.
A song-writing thread is a great idea! I would be very interested to hear what you and others are creating. Thanks again!
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Pistolcat
461 posts
Jul 24, 2013
2:28 PM
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Loved it! I think the harp part fit very nicely. The fill after the first vocal line was a very nice shadow. Maybe it could have been repeated as mr so&so suggested but I loved the rest of it too. A acoustic guitar, maybe a steel guitar or some other slide guitar would have fitted nicely and given it a bit more "glue". Yup, a duo piece! One man on harp and song and one on steel guitar and stomp box!
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Rubes
735 posts
Jul 24, 2013
6:39 PM
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Nice one Eric.....a bit 'Son Housey' !
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BronzeWailer
1090 posts
Jul 24, 2013
8:42 PM
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Thanks Pistolcat and Paul. Appreciate the feedback. I've been listening to Son House a lot. I'm not an anti-modernist but need to learn the basics first...
Cheers,
Eric
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SteamrollinStan
24 posts
Jul 24, 2013
9:49 PM
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All good Eric, the comments above are from pro's i think, so from thier feedback i'de say its a good'un ;)
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nacoran
6973 posts
Jul 24, 2013
10:42 PM
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The first thing I learned with harp and voice arrangements was that when I play a riff and then sing it, I get almost no response, but if I sing a riff and then play it, everyone thinks I'm a musical genius. :)
I like the idea of a voice/harp arrangement thread. Maybe we should start another one so we don't hijack this one. Really nice song. Nicely done.
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BronzeWailer
1092 posts
Jul 25, 2013
5:35 PM
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Thanks Bruce and Nate.
Possible topics of discussion for the voice-harp thread.
I am interested in how the solo harp guys keep the groove; of course you've got to do the move the body thing (as Adam and Rick Estrin have shown in their videos); I also am interested in how the little in-between bits (the "chuck chucks" and rhythm-y little puffs help keep the groove going. The goal is internalised metronome!
Eric
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