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rogonzab
263 posts
Apr 11, 2013
6:24 AM
Hi,

In a spanish harp forum I found this video. The player is using the EQ pedal not only to stop feedback, he is using the EQ pedal to change the tone of the amp. Is interesting to hear.

I use my EQ pedal alot, not so much to make a radical change in the tone of the amp,I only take some of the higher frecuencies and boost the low a litle and whit just that small change the amp sounds more fat. Is a very good improvement considering that my EQ pedal is a cheap Behringer EQ700.

boris_plotnikov
853 posts
Apr 11, 2013
8:39 AM
EQ pedals always reduce dynamics. Sometimes I use EQ in my POD HD or separate, but I use it only if I completely dislike tone from amp.
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HawkeyeKane
1592 posts
Apr 11, 2013
8:45 AM
I've read many good things about the Danelectro Fish N Chips EQ pedal. I myself am planning on getting the Boss 59 Bassman pedal here soon. Not really an EQ pedal as such, but has all the tone controls that a Bassman would have.
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barbequebob
2242 posts
Apr 11, 2013
10:14 AM
Don't waste your money on them for tone im provement because the first place you HAVE to improve your tone is from your acoustic tone and if that's crappy, your amplified tone will ALWAYS be crappy regardless of whatever you buy to improve it.
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rogonzab
265 posts
Apr 11, 2013
10:17 AM
barbequebob, yes 100% right on that, but I dont think that a litle less highs and litle more bass from the amp would hurt anyone.
fredcardoso
7 posts
Apr 11, 2013
10:34 AM
When the amplifier is not harp friendly, maybe it worthwhile to use some band-aids to hide the problem. And sometimes this is the only way to use the amp.

However, a good amp will get enough bass response, be resistant to feedback and sound better without this type of pedal. In a good amp, an eq pedal usually only serves to cut fidelity / dynamics and put the it on the muddy side.

Is the tone control all the way up in the video above? Here is another video of the same amplifier with more appropriate settings(?):

Last Edited by fredcardoso on Apr 11, 2013 12:07 PM
MP
2704 posts
Apr 11, 2013
1:28 PM
sometimes an EQ pedal is a good idea and sometimes it is worthless and wrecks tone. depends on how crappy the amp is.

now-a-days amps are more harp friendly than they have been since the 1950s.
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dougharps
383 posts
Apr 11, 2013
3:08 PM
They can be useful with some amps to balance the amp's range and balance of "tone" (frequencies). You can also adjust to get more volume before feedback by cutting problem frequencies. I have used a Fish & Chips and also at times an LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI to cut feedback and balance frequencies when the amp EQ didn't do the job. Overall I choose to not use one unless I have to to get a decent sound that is loud enough.

The tone of your harp playing is as Bob said. Pedals cannot substitute for good acoustic tone. Resonance!
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SergZZZ
65 posts
Apr 11, 2013
9:53 PM
HawkeyeKane - I have a pedal Bassman 59 FBM-1. I am using the setup: presence 9 hours;
middle 12;
Bass 15 hours;
treble 9 hours;
level 9 hours;
gain 15 hours.
The pedal gives you a little ovedrive, and helps to fight with feedback
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HawkeyeKane
1593 posts
Apr 12, 2013
6:40 AM
@Serg

Do you use it with an amp, or do you go straight to the PA with it?
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SergZZZ
66 posts
Apr 12, 2013
7:05 AM
HawkeyeKane- Fender champ 5c1 clone
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isaacullah
2393 posts
Apr 12, 2013
10:24 AM
I have a fish and chips, and I love it. I use it mainly to 1) squelch feedback prone frequencies, and 2) get a nice clean boost. I also sometimes use it to boost mids when laying loops to make them contrast (i.e., I record bass loop with flat eq, then pop up the mids to record overdubs). It helps separate them a bit in that context, and so could probably help you get out of the mix if your are in the same sonic realm as another instrument in your band (like keys).

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Rick Davis
1629 posts
Apr 12, 2013
4:22 PM
I have the Boss EQ-7 on my pedal board but almost never use it. The pedals I have are:

Kinder AFB+
MXR Carbon Copy analog delay
Boss EQ-7
BBE Sonic Stomp

I use the 1st two with the Bassman. With those four pedals I can usually get acceptable tone out of most amps.


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