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tookatooka
3234 posts
Mar 28, 2013
1:40 PM
Hi Guys,
I normally jam along to backing tracks on my computer. E.g. Backing track playing and I accompany using the line-in on the computer from my Micro-Cube Line-out. This was fine till my on-board sound system freaked out and would no longer allow me to record from the line-in. I bought an Asus Sound Card to rectify the problem but the latency makes it almost un-usable. Although it's only a micro-second or so delay, it's enough to screw my playing up. Anyone else had latency problems? If so what were you able to do if anything to get over the problem?
Milsson
53 posts
Mar 28, 2013
2:32 PM
Check out this. I've come across this but i haven't wraped My head around it.
http://www.asio4all.com/
tookatooka
3235 posts
Mar 28, 2013
3:17 PM
Thanks Frank I was looking at that only the other day. I need to do more research. Could be the answer.
Thanks Millson asio4all, what is that all about? I'll have a read and check it out thanks.
Frank
2111 posts
Mar 28, 2013
3:26 PM
Buy it or something similar at a store near you because they are returnable with a receipt, I own one and it serves the purpose well of giving a good sound card that works with plugging a mic into and giving good results.
nacoran
6625 posts
Mar 28, 2013
3:44 PM
I don't for your combo of software and sound card, but in Audacity there is a latency setting that you have to manually set.

There are two ways to deal with it in Audacity-

First, and simplest, if you pull the backing track into Audacity, and play it from there, then you record along with it. The track you record will have both your speakers and your playing on it, all synced up- just delete the 'original' which is offset (you'll lose a little sound quality because you are essentially rerecording the backing track.)

The better way (probably closer to what you are doing) is to play the backing track through headphones so you have a clean harp track and a clean backing track. Latency *should* stay the same from recording to recording. That means even if your software doesn't have a feature to adjust for it automatically, you can adjust for it mathematically. Record a sharp, regular noise (a clap or something else with a well defined spike). Then, play it back through your speakers and rerecord that sound. That should give you two nearly identical looking tracks, only offset by a tiny bit. Highlight a little bit of the second track (the delayed one) and delete it (hopefully your software has a 'undo' button because it may take a couple tries.) Write down how much time you deleted, until you get them to exactly match. In Audacity at least, you can actually type in the amount of time to delete, so once you have the number you can just delete the same amount in the future.

Or are you trying to use the visual wave forms to time your playing? That I don't have a solution for except learning to time it. It's like having a band mate who always comes in a little late.



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Gerry
44 posts
Mar 29, 2013
12:52 AM
Buying a dedicated interface just to jam with may seem a little like overkill. But if you're doing any recording I can heartily recommend the Roland Quad Capture. It will handle audio and midi and is fantastic.
tookatooka
3236 posts
Mar 29, 2013
11:06 AM
Thanks guys. Like a fool I thought a soundcard which offered 7.1 Surround Sound Dolby stereo headphone output and a mic amplifier and other bells and whistles I would never use, would at least offer a fairly reasonable recording facility too. Wrong!!! The Line-in volume was derisory. Everytime I hit a certain frequency it popped and crackled and the latency was nearly always a note or two behind what I was playing.

I'm sending it back to Amazon and will start my quest for a soundcard with decent record capabilities again.
Thanks for all your suggestions, I'll be picking over them all in time and will announce what I've found to be good in due course.

Thanks Guys.
tookatooka
3237 posts
Mar 30, 2013
1:42 PM
Good Information. Thanks Whistler.


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