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CarlA
304 posts
Mar 23, 2013
2:20 PM
Found this YouTube video today. What's happening at 2:58 in the video that's making everyone laugh? Is this just a high register split octave of sorts??

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NW71RxVe0w

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tmf714
1574 posts
Mar 23, 2013
2:55 PM
It's actually the octave "beating"-just made more noticable by the amp/mic combo.
didjcripey
502 posts
Mar 23, 2013
3:27 PM
sure its not a tongue flutter on an octave?
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ReedSqueal
393 posts
Mar 23, 2013
3:49 PM
Sounds like some kind of harmonic resonance. Perhaps harmonic dissonance. Or something like that.
I've heard Dave Barrett talk about something similar to this.
Here's the video embeded, full size. The link above is a small version for mobile phones.



(Edited for typo's, as usual)

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Last Edited by ReedSqueal on Mar 23, 2013 3:52 PM
Rick Davis
1489 posts
Mar 23, 2013
3:49 PM
I thing it is beating at that particular moment.

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Last Edited by Rick Davis on Mar 23, 2013 4:19 PM
tmf714
1575 posts
Mar 23, 2013
4:39 PM
"sure its not a tongue flutter on an octave?"
Positive-William Clarke used it a lot.
CarlA
305 posts
Mar 23, 2013
4:44 PM
@tmf714

Is it from a specific octave split, or do certain type of amps/tube combinations highlight it more??
Rick Davis
1490 posts
Mar 23, 2013
4:55 PM
6-7 draw, I think. That is where I get the reed beat thing. It is the same principal as Echo or Tremolo harps.

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tmf714
1576 posts
Mar 23, 2013
5:12 PM
It's works well for me tongue blocked on the 6-10 draw octave-I can really get it beating heavy there on a Bb harp.

Last Edited by tmf714 on Mar 23, 2013 5:32 PM
Kingley
2438 posts
Mar 24, 2013
12:26 AM
Like tmf714 says it's an octave beating. William Clarke used octave beating to great effect.
puri
50 posts
Mar 24, 2013
1:59 AM
It's actually an octave that's not perfectly in tune - musically. Theoretically two notes in an octave considered the same note so when played together they should sound very smooth just like only one note being played but when one or both of them got out of tune they become the most dissonance interval and beat a lot like that. Most tunings for harp apart from ET would have some dissonance octave I think (not sure though).

Last Edited by puri on Mar 24, 2013 1:59 AM
CarlA
306 posts
Mar 24, 2013
5:08 AM
Thanks again for the replies! Yeah, it makes sense now because you do hear it alot in William Clark's music. I always thought it was a type of technique he employed. Now I know, thanks!


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