Jehosaphat
280 posts
Aug 20, 2012
6:03 PM
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At present i'm using a Harp break/Dan Echo delay set up into an SState PA.
Anyone have an opinion as to whether or not an Octave pedal from Lone Wolf would add anything tasty to my rig?
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SuperBee
516 posts
Aug 20, 2012
9:21 PM
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this is almost the same question I asked a couple weeks back. The octave was the pedal I was interested in particularly, and I think it was the only LW pedal no-one mentioned in response. I think it's worth trying. I haven't tried it yet. If you try it please report.
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AC
37 posts
Aug 20, 2012
10:47 PM
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I use the Octave pedal in my setup, which is either going through a keyboard amp or straight to the PA. I've already had the Harp Attack and the Harp Delay in my setup before. I added the Octave pedal hoping it would create a more textured tone similar to a tube type of distortion and that is exactly what it did. I love it and got good feedback from other musicians and general audience alike.
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Jehosaphat
281 posts
Aug 21, 2012
2:31 AM
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@AC
Good enough for me.Thats what i was hoping.
I'll order one tomorrow and see how i go.
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SuperBee
517 posts
Aug 21, 2012
7:04 AM
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AC, have you used the LW octave without the attack in the chain?
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Frosty
100 posts
Aug 21, 2012
9:55 AM
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I use both Harp Attack and Harp Octave in my pedal chain. Harp Octave is in my chain just after Rocktron Hush pedal, which is the first one in the chain. After that I have a Boss Harmonist PS-6 octave pedal and after that comes Harp Attack. I tried also the other way around (Octave after HA), but this way works best for me. I also tried to put Octave and HA next to each other, but I got a big crackling sound each time I kicked the Octave on or off. But with PS-6 between them there is no promlems. I use Harp Attack to get my normal "clean dirty" sound and Harp Octave to get my "dirtier dirty" sound. The combination works very well with my Bassman and and also when playing straight through a PA. After Harp Attack I have Mad Professor Deep Blue Delay and the last in my chain is BBE Sonic Stomp.
Hope this helps.
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Littoral
590 posts
Aug 21, 2012
1:26 PM
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Frosty, must be me but I can't imagine that I'd ever hear myself through all that gear.
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Jehosaphat
282 posts
Aug 21, 2012
3:40 PM
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Frosty do you find that by using the octave pedal into the Bassman you can get 'grit' at lower volumes.
Meaning you can use the amp at lower volumes for smaller gigs?
Last Edited by on Aug 21, 2012 3:40 PM
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AC
38 posts
Aug 21, 2012
9:53 PM
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@SuperBee
I never tried using the Octave pedal without the Harp Attack live or at a rehearsal. I'm sure I tried it in my basement but I decided they sounded better together. When I want more of an accoustic sound I turn both the Harp Attack and the Octave off, when I want the crunch I turn them both on.
However, if I was going through a tube amp the Harp Attack would probably be unnecessary. I have tried my set up through a Bassman RI and I liked the sound better without the Harp Attack - but I still liked the Octave and the Delay.
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Jehosaphat
284 posts
Aug 21, 2012
10:03 PM
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@AC "I have tried my set up through a Bassman RI and I liked the sound better without the Harp Attack - but I still liked the Octave and the Delay."
Can you get good sound thru the bassman at lower volumes because of the pedals?
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AC
39 posts
Aug 21, 2012
10:26 PM
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@Jehosaphat
I never tried it live with the Bassman - by the time I got the Octave pedal I converted all my live playing to go through either the keyboard amp or a PA. I did get a good tone at lower volume with the Octave pedal and the Bassman trying it at home, but I don't think that means much because things change when you play live, even at lower volumes. If I had to take a guess I would say that it would help tremendously, but that's just a guess.
I do believe there is a money back guarantee on the LW pedals (be sure to verify that with them, though). If that is true and you can front the money I think it's definitely worth the try.
What I can tell you for certain is that I love my LW pedals. They sound great and they have been extremely reliable, without one hiccup throughout many live shows.
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Frosty
101 posts
Aug 22, 2012
12:03 AM
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@Jehosaphat
"Frosty do you find that by using the octave pedal into the Bassman you can get 'grit' at lower volumes.
Meaning you can use the amp at lower volumes for smaller gigs?"
Yes, exactly.
@Littoral
I can hear myself better with all my pedals than without them. Someone may have opposite experience and that is ok, but my rig works for me.
@AC
I find HA necessary with Bassman to get the sound I am after, but of course it depends of the sound you are after. I am with you when you say you love your LW pedals. They are great equipment for me.
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Last Edited by on Aug 22, 2012 2:15 AM
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Littoral
591 posts
Aug 22, 2012
5:46 AM
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Love my LW delay, my point about not being able to hear myself is that my sound (Tone) comes from I, me, the person, and "I" am less accessible for each thing in between me and the harp. I've played 30 years plugged straight in. The delay, I've finally decided, is mostly worth it.
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1847
147 posts
Aug 22, 2012
9:16 AM
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littoral Love my LW delay, my point about not being able to hear myself is that my sound (Tone) comes from I, me, the person, and "I" am less accessible for each thing in between me and the harp. I've played 30 years plugged straight in. The delay, I've finally decided, is mostly worth it.
the tone comes from you?
that heresy! lol
i tried to make that point last week
it fell on deaf ears.
i am in the process of posting a few tracks
people can decide for themselves
if its a decent tone or not
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Littoral
593 posts
Aug 22, 2012
3:10 PM
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@1847 Agreed. That said, I try not to be bluesier-than-thou (minimal success) It is a lot of fun using effects and they can be effective. Nothing like the real thing though. It's the thread that runs through what we like the most, regardless of the genre or even discipline.
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S-harp
60 posts
Aug 22, 2012
4:33 PM
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Sometimes I use my LW Harp Octave straight in the PA. But it only sounds good if the PA can carry my acoustic tone without the stomp box. If you sound good with just your 57 you sound good with the Octave. IMO the mic of choice, when straight in PA through Octave, would be 57'type HighZ.
I run mic and octave through my HCIII, then to PA. That also provides a nice possability ... to run two cables to the PA and pan out clean/driven in left/right speaker. With the Octave I see the tone as acoustic with some break up. Great for backing. Turn the knobs up and it quickly looses its charm. It's no substitute for tubes but provides some variaty in tone when straight in the PA. Strangely though, when the Octave is played i line with my Delay the tone gets closer, the tone is almost there ...
But ... Excellent at rehersal and as backup gear. I wouldn' t gig with that setup other than as backup ... and at jam sessions.
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1847
150 posts
Aug 22, 2012
5:59 PM
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someone brought a harp attack
we put in thru the bassman
i liked it. was hoping he would bring it
the next time but he did not show up
someone else brought one the other day
i had my champ with me
he sounded good thru it
the organizer thought it was the best he ever heard him play.
i tried to play thru it ended up unplugging it
these pedal are showing up more and more
i think that they are on to something.
hope to try it thru the p.a.
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