SuperBee
470 posts
Jul 31, 2012
8:54 PM
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Hi, just wondering if anyone here has used a lone wolf octave and or delay pedal direct to PA. I think I remember someone talking about trying it but I don't recall any follow up.
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rainman
15 posts
Aug 01, 2012
10:09 AM
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Super B, I've used My Lone Wolf "Harp Tone" Pedal direct to pa and thought it helped my sound a lot. I think it's the most overlooked pedal they sell. If you have an amp that has the power you want but your not happy with the sound, I would suggest you consider this pedal. It will help cut down on feedback, and ad's 20 db adjustment for Bass, and treble. It really give you a lot of flexibility to your tone. You could also sell it on here if you don't like it and get most of your investment back. Even with my modified harp amp's I use it most of the time.
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SuperBee
472 posts
Aug 01, 2012
4:24 PM
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Hi rainman. I am considering the tone+ for use with some of guitar amps. I already have the octave and delay though, and as we are gonna go on a little tour soon I was wondering if they would be useful into PA versus some sort of pre-amp pedal.
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rainman
16 posts
Aug 02, 2012
4:16 AM
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This last weekend I put my string of 4 pedals starting with the Tone+ in front of a Modded Valve Jr. with a added line out to the PA, and I was really happy with my sound and the audience response was very positive. In that setup the amp was really just functioned like another pedal allowing my to add or take away saturation grit from the amp by adjusting the gain. No feedback issues at all and that gave me a real freedom to know I could move around the stage or change my cupping without that worry of the Feedback monster sneaking up on me. I have spent too many performances with a larger or miked amp worrying about feedback and it really limited my playing. I wouldn't hesitate doing this again if the situation warranted it.
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Jehosaphat
271 posts
Aug 02, 2012
4:31 AM
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I will use a L/W Harp break pedal into a PA and be a happy camper.
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boris_plotnikov
746 posts
Aug 02, 2012
5:35 AM
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The most comfortable sound I have was. SM57 to MXR Carbon copy delay to LoneWolf HarpAttack then splitted between PA and 2x10 solid state Fender Princeton (not mine unfortunately). Amp gave me fatness and dynamics, while PA gives me a nice cut and clearness. Great amplifed tone with enough dirt and as much loudness as I want.
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SuperBee
481 posts
Aug 02, 2012
7:18 PM
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Hi Boris. Have you also used Harp Break with solid state amps?
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jbone
1025 posts
Aug 06, 2012
4:20 AM
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interesting topic. my pedal works great with one cord but not another. i suspect i have a wrong pole soldered to a lead on that one cable.
i also have a bushman/nady low-z bullet mic i got for a deal a few yrars ago, which i wanted to try with a small ss amp. and i did, but the harp delay pedal would not come on when i put it in line between mic and amp. i did get some steady hum and that was it. my theory is that the xlr to 1/4" connector has a wrong pole in use. any thoughts on this?
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arnenym
69 posts
Aug 06, 2012
5:50 AM
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jbone. The delay should work with a Lo-z mic. But it works even better with a Hi-z. Try a impedance match transformer instead of the adapter and you will see how the sound is awakening.
Superbee.
All Lonewolf pedals is fine to use direct to PA because they're made for Hi-Z don't give solid state distorsion. If you don't want it, of course, and use a Harp Break or make it distort in the PA mixer with too high output volume.
Every type of pedal have their own character and i recommend you to take a good time to ´find out whats best for you. Start with all controls on the PA mixer on neutral.
A Harp Attack give a fat distorted "bassmannish" tone.
A harp tone+ give a extra volume and EQ.
A Harp break compress the tone and give dirt.
Delay gives.... delay! -and a darker tone.
Delay V2 gives delay and a natural tone.
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MP
2396 posts
Aug 06, 2012
12:53 PM
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i've done this w/ an Ibanez analog delay and it improved the harp tone a lot. i do not know why.
i imagine the Lone Wolf delay might do the same.
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SuperBee
486 posts
Aug 07, 2012
6:15 AM
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thanks all, i guess i will try the pedals with the PA in the shed when i next have the opportunity. no-ones tried the Harp Octave with PA?
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MN
165 posts
Aug 07, 2012
9:05 AM
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I recently saw an interview with Curtis Salgado on another site where he mentions using an Xotic EP Booster Pedal (http://www.xotic.us/effects/ep_booster/).
He says, "I can go in and plug into any amplifier and it will give it an amount of distortion and also kicks up the power ... if you've got an amp and you're plugging in, you can actually dial in the distortion."
Curtis makes no mention of using it directly into a PA.
The page on Amazon says, "The Xotic EP Booster is a discrete FET preamp pedal with a low impedance output. The EP Booster was based around the classic preamp side of an Echoplex and produces a shimmering boost tone that adds some high end sparkle and definition. The Xotic EP Booster features up to 20db of gain on tap and two internal DIP switches to customize the boost. One is a Bass Boost and the other is a Bright switch. The default setting is Bright on/Bass Boost off. This provides extra sparkle for the darker sounding instruments and is great for that extra edge or shimmer. The Bass Boost adds just the right amount of low end for single coils to keep up. By turning off the Bright Switch you can get a full frequency boost that is transparent and gives you back what you put into it."
They're quite basic (just one knob), can run on a battery, and cost less than $120 on that big auction site and at Amazon. Has anyone here tried one with harp?
There's a review at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzJuDbzTGZI but it's all about guitar useage.
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boris_plotnikov
748 posts
Aug 07, 2012
9:02 AM
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SuperBee. Yes, and it works. BTW HarpBreak is warmer, more compressed, while HarpAttack is more bright, dinamic and agressive.
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HarpNinja
2611 posts
Aug 07, 2012
10:44 AM
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I love my Tech 21 Sansamp Para DI. It goes from crystal clear to super nasty Champ tones easily. You can blend the eq'ed signal with the analog modelling as well. You can also take three outputs from it - effected XLR, effected 1/4", and uneffected 1/4"
I used it with a QSC K10 last Thursday as part of a 10 piece band on a huge stage for over 500 people. I took the 1/4" out to my K10 and the sound guy took the XLR out for FOH.
I used my Greg Heumann bullet and the Para DI set up for overdriven Blackface tones. I then adjusted the blend knob to mix in some clean tones.
No feedback, great tone, and plenty of volume (I was between a hard hitting drummer and a bass stack). In fact, part way through the first song, two members of the band came over to me to tell me how great I sounded.
My point is, I see ZERO reason to use any other rig. I can count the number of times I've been on stage with 10 people at max volumes on one finger, but if I am loud and toneful enough for that (with heardroom to spare), I see no need to go any further.
Besides the huge flexibility of the pedal, the routing options really give me a ton of options. If you tweak the Mid know and Mid shift, you can go from a DI sound to bee-buzz tweed and everything in between. It works great with my bullet, SM57, and AKG D5.
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sonvolt13
116 posts
Aug 07, 2012
3:57 PM
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Mike,
Were you able to get similar volume without feedback when you were using the Blonde?
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HarpNinja
2615 posts
Aug 09, 2012
9:24 AM
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Yes. I love the Tech 21 stuff. More recordings to come very soon...maybe tonigh.
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Mike
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1847
125 posts
Aug 13, 2012
3:12 PM
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i got a chance to try the harp attack
thru my bassman
seemed pretty cool
since they are relatively inexpensive
may just have to pick one up
i'll get a chance again next week
for a second opinion.
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boris_plotnikov
749 posts
Aug 14, 2012
4:32 AM
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HarpNinja
Again ParaDI or BassDriverDI?
I've checked BassDriver, absolutely not what I want. I've checked Blonde v1, I liked it in general but I disliked amp sim. I still intended to try ParaDriver and Blonde v2, although now I make a goal to travell only with my Line6 POD HD, as it have everything necessary inside including looper.
BTW speaking of effects to PA, I'm very interesting in Harp Commander.
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HarpNinja
2621 posts
Aug 14, 2012
5:51 AM
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Para.
I got the Behringer version for $40, but it doesn't have a drive knob. It sounds identical to the Para with the drive turned down. It would be great for clean to compressed playing...maybe clean tweed tones.
The para is more diverse with the drive and can get really crunchy and dirty.
It is worth the money. I might leave the Behringer on my looping board and the para on my small board. Will bring para to Spah.
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