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TylerLannan
52 posts
Jan 21, 2009
4:06 PM
I'm really getting into the whole amped harp sound and I thought that it might be fun to start a little discussion about pedals. Who uses what? What brand? Any cool combinations? How's the board set up? How's it work with the rig(mic and amp)? Anything else related feel free to share. I thought it might be nice to fire up a conversation like this on a harp forum because most all pedals are made for guitar and it's good to hear from other harpers what is what.

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SUNDOG
59 posts
Jan 21, 2009
4:15 PM
Electroharmonics "Holy Grail",
Danelectro "Corned Beef"

Reverbs

Sorry I was not more clear... Yes I use the, and the GRAIL also has a Flanger effect theat sounds good with a harp.

Also I once tried an octave pedal but it was too slow in responding so I stay mostly with the reverbs as opposed to a delay.....


r, Neal aka: SUNDOG

Last Edited by on Jan 25, 2009 5:20 PM
eharp
196 posts
Jan 21, 2009
7:06 PM
what do they do, sundog?

how 'bout giving just a wee bit more.
Patrick Barker
167 posts
Jan 21, 2009
7:20 PM
I'm assuming sundog recommends those

Jason Ricci's pedals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldOwXdCEcoA&feature=related
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Last Edited by on Jan 21, 2009 7:52 PM
Violin Cat
15 posts
Jan 21, 2009
7:42 PM
Kinder Anti Feedback Box, into a BBE Opto stomp (Optical Compressor),into a BBE Chorus (Mind Bender) , into Eclecro harmonix Micro Pog,into a Maxon Auto Filter (auto Wah) into a BBE Two Timer (Analog Delay), into a BBE Sonic Maximizer.

I love pedals most of these are actually FOR my tone and for getting a tone that sounds full and loud like the amp was cranked at any volume including low of course. They obviously serve other purposes too like controling the tone.dynamics, clarity and feed back at high volume as well. The chorus,Auto wah and pog are basically for fun!
I Love BBE and the Opto Stomp,Delay, and Sonic maximizer stay on all night and I depend upon them now pretty heavy. Great subject tyler.
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gene
116 posts
Jan 21, 2009
8:20 PM
Ed Alleyne-Johnson plays violin, but check out what can be done with a looper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUO6kYLb6As

Much more can be done with them. You can Gooogle looper pedals and find more examples and info.
pastorharmonica
1 post
Jan 22, 2009
6:26 AM
I use a Tech 21 Sansamp Bass driver DI, It delivers plenty of drive and that low end crunch even when it is through a PA system. It does have a tendicy to feed back though. Any cheap fixes for that? Being that I got it for nothing, it was in a trunk of a car in a junk yard, I'm not complaining. I looked it up on line and they go for 180. to 200. US dollars.
isaacullah
21 posts
Jan 22, 2009
9:04 AM
Best CHEAP delay pedal that you are going to get is the danelectro FAB delay. It costs all of $15! The sound and functionality can be improved greatly by to simple modifications (if you are handy at that sort of thing), which can be seen by going to me YouTube channel (link is in my signature) and looking through my videos for "FAB delay modified for Harmonica".
I also use a danelectro "Fish & Chips" 7 band equalizer that lets me roll off some of the high frequencies and shape the low and mids to get the best tone out of my various mics. It seems to also cut back pretty drastically on feedback (by cutting the high frequencies that are usually responsible for creating feedback in the first place). Another great thing about the Fish & Chips is that is has a samll clean boost with it's own master volume control that lets you adjust the volume of any mic without it's own volume control. The boost lets you crank the signal of any mic to the level of a "bullet"-type mic (crystal or ceramic element) and overdrive the preamp section of your amp for the same type of overdrive! It costs about $20-25 depending where you get it. I ordered both pedals off of Amazon....
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isaacullah
22 posts
Jan 22, 2009
9:06 AM
I forgot to mention tat I also build my own effects. I'm about %90 finished with a sampler/looper like the one in the video above. I'll make a YouTube of it when I get it finished!
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JTThirty
14 posts
Jan 22, 2009
11:30 AM
Wow! Way cool clip there, Jason. I've seen it before and have been amazed at the sounds being processed and bounced around that room. Got an entire orchestra effect going. By the way, and I've mentioned this in another thread, Randy over at www.lwharpamps.com is producing some really nice pedals dedicated to us harp guys. Jason, you might check out his octave pedal and see what you can get out of it. Anyway--

See ya--
Ricky B
www.bushdogblues.blogspot.com
bluzlvr
108 posts
Jan 22, 2009
1:06 PM
I still like my Ibanez AD9 analog delay that I've had for about 25 years.
LIP RIPPER
24 posts
Jan 22, 2009
1:45 PM
ANTI FEEDBACK PEDAL? PLEASE EDUCATE ON THIS THING. I THINK I GOTTA GET ONE.

LR
MrVerylongusername
124 posts
Jan 23, 2009
12:52 AM
Before I got my bassman (no feedback at all!), I used one of these to squash the squealing piggies in my mic:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHDSP110
bikerpvc
13 posts
May 28, 2015
11:58 AM
Hey folks.
I just picked up BBE Two Timer pedal. Can anyone give me a good start point on the settings to get a quick slap back followed by a decent sounding delay. I won't have a lot of time to dial it in before we play.
Also, I have a Moor Ana Echo pedal I'd like to use with it. Does it make a whole lot of difference if I put the echo pedal before or after the 2 timer?

Thanks for any input.
Barley Nectar
812 posts
May 28, 2015
12:29 PM
I love/use an old MIJ Arion SAD-1. Grey or black case, it does not matter contrary to internet lore. This pedal is very transparent, noise free and has mono/stereo output. I have three of them! The weak point is the input jack, which is rebuildable, but considering they were made in the mid 80's. Pretty good. Only pedal I use...BN
Popculture Chameleon
72 posts
May 28, 2015
12:42 PM
IN ORDER TO AMP- Lone Wolf Blues Harp Tone-Boss RV5 digital reverb- BOSS blues driver- EHX Pitchfork-DITTO looper2x pedal- BBE optic stomp- Thinking of getting a cry baby pedal- not sure yet- would put that one first in line up
Owen Evans
41 posts
May 28, 2015
9:32 PM
Only have the need for one pedal. A delay made by Memphis Mini which I reviewed on this forum back on May 4,2015. There's a new You Tube on the website now and it does a pretty goo job of describing the pedal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_LdXD_ekqQ
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Georgia Blues
157 posts
May 29, 2015
4:19 AM
Centerpiece pedal for me is a BK Butler Blue Tube with a 12au7. Nice overdriven sound, good compression and a lot of tone control.
hvyj
2687 posts
May 29, 2015
10:08 AM
RIG 1: 545 Ultimate>EH MicroPOG w/Analogman trubypass mod>Hammond Leslie G pedal>TC Electronics Vortex Flanger>Xotic EP Booster>TC Electronics Flashback Delay>Fender Super Reverb RI 4x10

RIG 2: 545 Ultimate>Digitech Luxe>Keeley Compressor Pro>Mooer Ensemble King>Xotic EP Booster>MXR Carbon Copy Delay>Peavey Delta Blues 1x15

For loud gigs I'll add a Squeal Killer anti feedback box between the mic and the pedal board, but only when necessary. Generally speaking, the EP Booster and the delay stay on all the time.

Last Edited by hvyj on May 29, 2015 10:24 AM
SuperBee
2626 posts
May 29, 2015
1:44 PM
What is this, like a sport to see who can find the oldest thread to revive?
2009? Seriously?
I have 3 pedals, all LW. Delay, reverb, octave.
I've never used the reverb on a gig. I don't really care for it. Compared to any spring I've used its just harsh imho. I even prefer the dsp effect on my hybrid fender.
The delay did all I wanted. In terms of sound fx, I only ever use that or reverb if the amp has reverb.
I keep the LW octave not for the sound but because it will actually allow me to get a little more volume from an amp, pre feedback.
I've played with a few others. LW harp break was no use to me, Harp Shield I found worse than useless in the circumstance where the band was loud enough that I had feedback problems trying to keep up. And a boss flanger pedal someone allowed me to borrow. I simply didn't care for that.
Anyway, none of that is why the thread was revived. Fellow has a question about connecting a delay pedal and an echo pedal, which seems like 2 delays to me but I'm sure I've just demonstrated I'm not really the person to give advice about pedals. Except to say I'd probably put a delay at the end closest to the amp usually
rogonzab
728 posts
May 29, 2015
2:47 PM
To go straight into the PA:
- Harpbreak -> Mad Profesor Deep Blue Delay (clon)

Whit my amp:
- A cable.
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boris_plotnikov
1052 posts
May 29, 2015
3:55 PM
EHX Pitchfork -> MXR Carbon Copy -> LoneWolf HarpAttack -> Lonewolf HarpBreak -> Boss LS2 with Line6 POD HD in the loop.
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Last Edited by boris_plotnikov on May 29, 2015 3:57 PM
isaacullah
3021 posts
May 29, 2015
4:20 PM
Wow. Holy old thread, Batman!

I use exactly NONE of the pedals I mentioned in my original 2009 post. Still have 'em, but I switched from discrete pedals to a modeling pedal several years back. I use the Zoom G3, and literally have dozens of different effects I use on there. Typically, I have a noise gate first > EQ > Modulation of some kind > Another Modulation of some kind > Delay > Reverb. Noisegate, EQ, and Reverb stay on pretty much all the time. Typically, modulation would be chorus or octave, but also some weird synth stuff too. I like a giant-sounding delay, and will kick that on for solos.

The only other pedal I have in my chain is the Vox 'Lil looper. I combine various effects patches on the G3 to lay down different layers in the loop.
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Littoral
1252 posts
May 29, 2015
4:41 PM
Superbee, same here. Harp Break seems to be no use to me. I love the Octave but don't use the effect and I like delay if the band isn't stupid loud. That's all I use -or straight in.
didjcripey
891 posts
May 29, 2015
5:28 PM
I concur with super bee. Tried heaps of pedals and the only one I think I couldn't do without is delay. LW Harp octave definitely helps cut through the mix when band is loud. I don't mind the harp break, but find I don't need it on my 5W amp and can only use it when I'm not chasing volume on my big amp (feedback prone).
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