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Jam track + amped harp through head phones. How?
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Seven.Oh.Three.
305 posts
Sep 24, 2016
9:44 AM
I've searched and search and still can't figure this out. If it's posted somewhere else let me know.

But I'm trying to figure out how to play a backing track and amped harp while listening through headphones. Ideally the only thing people would hear is accoustic harp.

Is this possible? What do I need to make this happen?

Amp is a VHT special 6

Thanks!
7.o.3.
Sundancer
28 posts
Sep 24, 2016
10:26 AM
Great question! If not possible to do all that, can ya at least run the harp sound thru headphones to minimize what neighbors hear?
MindTheGap
1772 posts
Sep 24, 2016
10:42 AM
I don't think you can do this without modifications to the VHT. You'd need something that replaces the speaker with a equivalent load, then take a headphone signal from that. Then you'd need a mixer to mix the backing track signal with your harp.

Other modelling amps mentioned here often do have this facility - an mp3-in socket, and a headphone socket that cuts the speaker.

With a valve amp like the VHT you can't simply cut the speaker, it will damage the amp.

Last Edited by MindTheGap on Sep 24, 2016 10:43 AM
MindTheGap
1773 posts
Sep 24, 2016
10:43 AM
What you need (no surprise for bringing this up!) is the Blue Dadi software - which is specifically set up to do this! It's fab.
Seven.Oh.Three.
306 posts
Sep 24, 2016
11:34 AM
Which amps have this capability?

For simplicity sake I'd rather not hook up a computer. Plus (as much as I hate to admit it) being a milenial i prefer to use my phone/MP3 player....

Thanks!
Fil
187 posts
Sep 24, 2016
11:46 AM
VOX Mini 5 Rhythm is one.
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Ian
371 posts
Sep 24, 2016
3:50 PM
The fender mustangs will do it.
My blackstar ht1 and ht5 will also do it... And are awesome.
MindTheGap
1776 posts
Sep 25, 2016
3:25 AM
Seems to be a feature on all those kind of amps. The Roland Micro Cube is a old favourite I think.

Ian - those Blackstars have valves as I remember - isn't it a preamp valve repurposed as low-power output device? Does plugging headphones in cut the speaker?
Ian
372 posts
Sep 25, 2016
9:56 AM
Mtg. Yes they are all tube. I don't know how it all works but the headphone output also cuts the speaker.
MindTheGap
1777 posts
Sep 25, 2016
10:51 AM
Maybe on a low power device it's not so critical.
rogonzab
992 posts
Sep 25, 2016
7:29 PM
Amplitube:



BlueDadi:


BlueDadi is better for amped sound, Amplitube is better to mess arround whit cool and weird sounds.

Ah, you also need a pc.

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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.
Killa_Hertz
1781 posts
Sep 26, 2016
7:43 AM
I do this with my Vox DA5. Which is essentially the old version of the rhythm 5 that was already mentioned.

I HIGHLY recommend one of these for home use. The DA5 is a little harder to find, but lots of people love the New Rhythm 5. And it has a built in Drum Machine, or drum beats rather. It has a few good amp models, on board effects w/ tap tempo, a input jack in the back with separate volume (this is designed for mic input to be use with guitar, but works great for an Ipod input), also has a line out which I use for headphones ( the line out has a speaker emulator so you get more of an amp sound in your headphones. Sounds more like a miced amp.), It also has Variable wattage( I believe its .5Watts, 1.5Watts, and 5watts.) AND ITS BATTERY POWERED. And the batteries last a good lone time. This is a little powerhouse amp. I really suggest looking into one.


Another way you could do it is with an external device of some sort.

The POD would work.
Also My Looper ( Digitech Jamman XT) has a 1/8" input for a ipod or cellphone.

Or you could get something like the Danelectro Honeytone Amp. They work, buy they arent really that satisfying.



But again, if you can dig up one of those Vox amps. They are GREAT. They run just over $100 usually.




Or if your interested I have a Zoom G2Nu for sale. It is a modeler like the POD, but it has a looper, built in drum tracks, tuner, etc. Tons of extra little features that the POD doesnt have. It has ports for nearly everything. And Richard Hunter actually makes harmonica patches for it so you will have already dialed in harmonica setups.

Heres a quick video demoing the Zoom G2Nu for guitar. You can probably find a better video, but..... let me know if your interested, I'll give it to you Cheap, as I dont use it really. So if someone can get some use out of it, I would rather that .. then it sitting on a shelf here. It is also Battery powered or plug in. So it's very portable and convenient. You could use it on the Go.


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Last Edited by Killa_Hertz on Sep 26, 2016 7:48 AM
SuperBee
4142 posts
Sep 27, 2016
2:20 AM
Yeah the black star amp may be low power enough to deal with the speaker load presented by the headphones. I looked at that circuit and although it does use a double triode in a push pull configuration I think there is a fair bit else going on in there. Just cant quite recall, but maybe I just saw 'at a glance' it was not exactly a traditional valve amp and didn't actually trace it all the way through.
Sevenohthree, you are just having fun with playing through the 'phones? Or you working on playing very quietly? Or working on mic technique?

Last Edited by SuperBee on Sep 27, 2016 4:18 AM
SleepingCat
36 posts
Sep 27, 2016
8:46 PM
Small mixer plus a Pod XT works great for me. Run backing track into the mixer, have the Pod on the mixers FX send. Only complaint is that sometimes instead of playing I will get absorbed twiddling effects and amp settings. Feels somewhat akin to spending movie night just browsing Netflix.
Seven.Oh.Three.
307 posts
Sep 27, 2016
9:16 PM
Thanks for all the responses. This forum is such a great resource.

Looks like I'll a Vox amp is in my near future.

Superbee- two out of three. After a brief hiatus I'm refocusing on harp. I put it down for a while but now back at it. Working mostly with playing along with backing tracks. But mic control and getting a proper cup are also important. I've set a goal to hit a jam session in the next 8 months and really need to "step it up".

Thanks again guys!


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