Yeomanthefirst
39 posts
Nov 02, 2018
4:15 AM
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Hi guys, anyone out there know what key Kim Wilson plays this in? It's on his Blues and Boogie album. I just cannot figure it out!
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SuperBee
5635 posts
Nov 02, 2018
5:05 AM
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A harp in 1st?
It’s 11pm and I can’t spend too long on it but it feels ok to me in 1st.
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Yeomanthefirst
40 posts
Nov 02, 2018
5:34 AM
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Ah, Thanks SuperBee. I'd forgotten he does a lot of that 1st position in A. I'll return to it and see if it works. Many thanks.
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SuperBee
5637 posts
Nov 02, 2018
3:23 PM
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I’m interested to know if you think that’s right. I just put the disc on and tried to cop that opening statement mainly.
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Harp2swing
286 posts
Nov 02, 2018
10:51 PM
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Last Edited by Harp2swing on Nov 02, 2018 10:53 PM
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wolfkristiansen
426 posts
Nov 04, 2018
10:35 PM
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Hi Yeomanthefirst-- "From the Bottom" is in the key of A. Kim Wilson is playing an A harp in 1st position. The first two notes in the harp opening are G and G flat. To get them, you have to work the 3 draw hole.
You can get FOUR notes in this draw hole-- from highest to lowest they are G sharp, G, G flat and F.
Here's how you do them, from highest to lowest:
1. G sharp-- draw hole 3 with no bending at all
2. G-- draw hole 3 with a slight bend
3. G flat-- draw hole 3 with a deeper bend
4. F-- draw hole 3 with an even deeper bend; right to the bottom!
I don't know your bending skills on harp, but you have to be able to hit each of the three bent notes precisely on pitch, at will, any time you need to. This includes starting a song with one of these bent notes. You also have to be able to hold the note, on pitch, as long as you need it.
So... Kim is starting "From the Bottom" with a bent note, "G"; i.e. the slightly bent note in description 2. His very next note is "G flat"; i.e. the deeper bent note in description 3.
I hope that helps.
Cheers,
wolf kristiansen
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tomaxe
141 posts
Nov 05, 2018
8:12 AM
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I think Wilson's first note is an A...he starts the tune along with the band on a blow 4...either a blow 1-4 split or he's bleeding in some of the 3 on a blow 4. Then he moves to the draw bent 3, where he proceeds to do some fancy spot on bending as described? At least that's how I hear it.
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SuperBee
5638 posts
Nov 05, 2018
11:39 AM
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I’m not near a CD player and I’ve left the disc in the car so I’m relying on memory from 5 minutes before bed, night before last (that’s my cop out excuse and I’m sticking to it) but I recall a descending phrase from 4 blow, fairly chromatic, over 2 measures (V chord and IV chord) followed by a 1 measure lick on mainly hole 2, but played twice but resolved on 1 blow I think.
I think that first 2 measure lick involved 5 notes, travelling from 4 blow to 2draw/3blow. Was it +4 +4 3’ 3’ 3” 3” 3’’’ 3’’’ +3 ?
Followed by 2” 2 2” +2 +1 (+1,2), 2” 2 2” +2 +1
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SuperBee
5640 posts
Nov 05, 2018
2:56 PM
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Yeah so no, that firstbphrase is more like +4 +4 3’ 3’ 3” 3” 2 2”
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SuperBee
5641 posts
Nov 05, 2018
4:56 PM
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And the other lick is perhaps more like 2” 2 3’ 2” +2 +1, 2” 2 3’ 2” +2 +1
Last Edited by SuperBee on Nov 05, 2018 4:59 PM
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wolfkristiansen
427 posts
Nov 05, 2018
8:29 PM
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tomaxe is right, Wilson starts the song with either a blow 4 or 1-4 split, in A. He hits that note (split?) twice, then goes on to the note sequence I described. My copy of "From the Bottom" was missing those first two notes... sorry!
Cheers,
wolf kristiansen
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