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Do you guys put your amp in the stage monitor
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bigd
661 posts
Oct 13, 2018
9:33 PM
I play a lot of venues that mike my amp. I also play through either 12 or 15'' speaker amps so I usually have good stage volume whether miked or not. I'll often ask for a "a little" in the monitor which is often in the near front of me. Tonight I didn't care for my sound and I'm not sure whether it was the tonality of the amp (new) or the stage monitor? Thanks
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Last Edited by bigd on Oct 13, 2018 10:13 PM
Martin
1507 posts
Oct 14, 2018
8:52 AM
I always face the annoying decision to either mic my small amp and get a good sound, but then being pursued by the feedback ghost from two sources; or chose my larger machine that will suffice, in volume terms, for most of the venues that I play, but gives me a duller sound.

I´ve been whining about this countless times here, but there I go, in lieu of a Fender Bassman or whatever costly monster many harmonica players use. (Right now I set my hopes to a newly purchased feedback blocker: an inexpensive little gadget privately built by a fellow Swede. I have some hopes for it, but it´s not gonna be the Holy Grail, that much I know.)
dougharps
1850 posts
Oct 14, 2018
1:22 PM
Often I just play to the PA, so I use the monitors.

If I am using a tube amp for a gig I bring one that is big enough for the stage and usually big enough for the room! I don't put it in my monitor at all.

Occasionally I will let some harp amp be put in a monitor at the other side of the stage if the band members there are having trouble hearing me. I have occasionally mic'd my amp for the mains in a larger mid-sized room, but usually I am playing in mid sized and smaller rooms and don't need to mic it.
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barbequebob
3545 posts
Oct 15, 2018
9:43 AM
I usually tell most sound guys to leave it off because too many of them have the stage sound way too loud and it causes a nonstop ring of feedback but I can count on one hand the number of sound guys who put my amp in the monitor and didn't have the stage sound too loud and it never caused feedback at all. If you have a sound person who thinks like he's setting up sound for a large venue like Madison Square Garden, you're screwed.
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TetonJohn
335 posts
Oct 15, 2018
2:19 PM
My amp is my monitor -- it is in front of me and tilted back -- miked to the house (not also in monitor). I bring an amp with some headroom in case the band gets loud (never needed/wanted amp in monitor -- not sure if other band members have any of my amp in their monitors -- probably sometimes if the stage is big.

Last Edited by TetonJohn on Oct 15, 2018 2:19 PM
bigd
662 posts
Oct 15, 2018
3:38 PM
Thanks guys......My question was catalyzed by a recent sonic contradiction, e.g., New amp played on a Friday in a large room miked in the house (sounded warm and round and ear-friendly) then played in another large room on Saturday with the sound harder and more electric (The latter was in my monitor and the house -the former just the house I believe). It seems both my experience and your consensual comments suggest leaving the stage monitor off.....previously I've been passive in my house set-ups other than bringing my own equipment and sennheiser "miking" mike...Some iconic NYC venues (Joes Pub, the Apollo, the Blue Note) have been Terrific without any tampering on my part - other venues have been less successful...Verdict: No monitor!
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John M G
264 posts
Oct 15, 2018
4:15 PM
Do you guys have any kind of pedal boards? or are you straight into your amps. I got carried away with pedals, but I'm not disappointed that I did. I have to let go of the redundant ones now that I've found a sound I like.
I went solid state for two reasons, the first was weight, the second was something that Jason Ricci commented on. He never wanted to rely on vintage equipment he'd have problems replacing or repairing. So I went with a Quilter Pro Block 200 with matching 2 x 8 200 watt cab, 28 lbs all up, then for smaller rooms got a micro pro 45 and a cab with just a 10" speaker. Now when I use the 200 watt, it's out front and use the micro pro for foldback which has worked real well so far. I've got a couple of pedals with a DI but have only used it a couple of times.
6SN7
814 posts
Oct 15, 2018
6:01 PM
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