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pimike
15 posts
May 30, 2018
3:28 PM
i am looking for a nice bottom end to mid range growler that can keep up with all of the stevie ray and jimi wanna be's, all for the ridiculous price of, say around 500 dollars. i have read all of the archive stuff and have doen pretty extensive research on line. i want a twin speaker, all tube amp, at 15 -30 watts. trouble is, if you can't plug into them, you really can't know. does anyone play through the fender 2x12 deville? is it even a good harp amp? moreover can any amp give a guy that broke up, honey fat warm tone that we all want if he is playing through a cheap red howler mic? a good mic, which i have also done my homework on, is another purchase that i am soon to make. i would like to keep the bill for amp and mic under 1000. you guys are a vast wealth of great info and i do appreciate you all, and your sound advice. thanks, mike
Joe_L
2836 posts
May 30, 2018
3:42 PM
If you are trying to compete in the volume wars, save yourself some time and find a different band to play with. Most harp amps that are going to be able to compete are beyond the price range you specified.

I've played through a friend's 2x12 deville briefly last week. I found it to be prone to feedback. The tone was pretty good, but how it sounds will be heavily dependent on what the player brings to the table.

If I was in your position, I would probably search for something with 4x10's like a used reissue Bassman and not the LTD version. I would look for a used Shure Green Bullet with a controlled reluctance or controlled magnetic element. If that doesn't compete, you definitely need to find a new band or invest in hearing protection.
shakeylee
742 posts
May 31, 2018
12:08 AM
i had a 4x10 deville.it was a good amp,but,too loud.
i traded it onstage with the delaware destroyers,for a RI bassman.i think i got the better deal.

what amp are you playing out of now?
also,where do you live? maybe we can CL something.


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Last Edited by shakeylee on May 31, 2018 12:10 AM
Prento
41 posts
May 31, 2018
2:18 AM
Find new guitarists. Stevie Ray and Jimi wannabes, apart from playing too loudly, rarely provide space for the harp, nor understand what is needed to play with a harp player.
jbone
2563 posts
May 31, 2018
4:41 AM
----------I had a Hot Rod Deluxe in the 90's. Even with that wattage the band was always louder, and I experienced this with many amps over many years.
I had a replica '59 Bassman built by Steve Clark of Sligo Amps in the mid 2000's, and it was a great amp. BUT it became a challenge for guitarists then to out volume me. And if I DID keep up volume wise, I was chided for being "too loud".

This is a decades old dilemma. My answer was to finally get a duo going and we both use 12w amps. Occasionally we have used a drummer and bassist at strictly low volume but for the most part we are a low volume duo. Enough to cover the venue. If the audience can have a conversation out front we know we're not too loud. What club owner wants the band blowing his clients out the door?

In one band we all had 30 watts or less and the lead guitarist still managed to drown out everybody. Once he was gone we had a very reasonable volume output. It takes a special group to honestly address the issue and deal with it. Unfortunately most people get a big amp and "have to" crank it for "tone" Ala SRV and others.

The one exception I ever saw was Sam Myers with Anson Funderburgh in Dallas. Sam had TWIN Bassmans. I mean TWO Bassmans. Or Sonny Jr's. Anson has always been a volume polite guitarist. Their sound was only as loud as necessary to carry at a venue, in or out of doors.

So obviously I am in the lower volume and no feedback school here.



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SuperBee
5410 posts
May 31, 2018
5:06 AM
2x12 should be feasible but might need some help
I’ve use a 410 HRD for years, but I modified it to be easier to deal with.
I’m about to restore it to stock but I intend to use it with this lone wolf mojo pad, which I expect will address the feedback problem.
Before I modded the amp I recall it was quite useable but I did have to adjust carefully and remain vigilant.


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