Used to be very fond of the $10 but since the kicked Lawson off and replaced him with Patterson I don’t care for it so much. These days I think the 50 with david unaipon and Edith Cowan is my favourite
Ben Franklin $100 note....or 528hz. the holy wholy note.used in gregorian chants and more...528hz. can be used as a drone and in a scale.....
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Little Roger: The notes B# is only used in Canada. I meant notes that we use in the continental US. Not notes like on dollar bills or whatever you guys are writing about. ---------- Marc Graci YouTube Channel
In the flow of music any note, even a long note, is ephemeral, and because of that transitory nature I do not trouble myself to attempt to form an attachment with any given note. ----------
One time when I was just raisning and lowering the pitch on my open low "E" string on my guitar, to listen to what sounded the best witgout looking at a tuner or anything, I ended up on Eb. Sounded cool but also resonated well on that guitar so that might have been part of why I liked the sound. I do lke playing in Eb though. I've also found many times that songs I like are in the key of C or C#. And when just picking tones on different strings and frets I end up on C or maybe C# because I like the sound. D sounds really nice too.
This piece by Captain Beefheart is in Eb, so I assume the whole band has tuned down a semitone, and he's playing in 3rd position on a Db harp, unless it's about tape speeds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN0eesCbN2A Having said that, the bass plays Db often, so I guess it hasn't tuned down, but the guitars must have, no? ---------- Andrew. -----------------------------------------
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Grover Cleavland is on the 1,000 note. I'd guess I'd have to say Cleavlands are the greatest notes ever. ---------- Reasonably priced Reed Replacement and tech support on Hand Made Series Hohner Diatonic Harmonicas.
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Are you asking about notes or keys? The way you posed the question suggests you may have actually been talking about keys rather than notes, being that the ease at which one could play an E would be dependent on what key harp they were playing on. As far as keys go, I like Keys G to Bb best.
Hey Mirco, check your -6 on your Db harp, your 6 on Eb, your -2 on Eb, your -5 on F, your -1, -4 and -8 on Ab and your 1, 4, 7 and 10 on a Bb harp: They are all Bb! (And none of my harps are from Canada!)
Thanks, JPharp. I guess I can clarify. I did mean favorite note (not key). E is my favorite note. I like to play it as a 4+ on the E harp, but it sounds especially good as the 2+ 5+ octave on a C harp. No matter what key the band or song is, the E note is the way to go. It's the best note!
Raven, I think that you are mixing up the notes Bb and B#. When you see a #, it means to sharpen the note and bring it up half a step.
Technically, since sharping a B means that B# = C. However, no one refers to it as B#.
Except in Canada, where they actually have an entirely different B# note. (It's not the same as C.) They also have an H note. They do all this to confuse you. ---------- Marc Graci YouTube Channel
My mistake, Mirco. Saw the B# and thought I saw a Bb. There are some German harps labeled in "H." fascinating study is how Keys and individual notes have changed over the years. Sometimes we just assume that A was always 440, but not the case. Our modern Western tradition is to base everything around the piano keyboard. I've even heard of some pianists who alter the tuning of their piano.
I am joking about the B# and H thing. I actually stole that from Michael Rubin's Meat and Potatoes harmonica book, where he claims they have a key of H in Canada to confuse you. ---------- Marc Graci YouTube Channel
Micro, I don't know about Canada, but there is a key of H. It is the key of B natural. I think it had something to do with typesetters not having a natural symbol, and the H looking most like it. The Y was used in early English type setting to replace the symbol that used to be used for the 'th' sound, which is why old timey stuff says 'ye olde locksmith' or such... which is actually supposed to be pronounced 'the olde locksmith'.
If you want to be weird, you can order Seydel's in Germanic key markings, so you could, I think, get a minor harmonica labeled in the key of H mol (which, according to their configurator is low B minor, with h mol being regular b minor. I've thought about doing it just so I can have a harmonica in the key of H, but I never seem to have enough money to justify buying a new B harp.
Timeistight... the key of C# only 'needs' it if you don't have a Db! :)
Other weird things I've noticed, for people interested, C# seems to be the prefered name for Db on Asian harps, and I've seen harps labeled in Gb instead of F# too, although that seems to be less common.
And other countries have their own variations, although I haven't seen harps labeled in other methods. I suspect it's a matter of smaller markets not having enough demand to warrant their own market sets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_note
Actually, I had a chart where I used google translate to look up all the translations of harmonica in different languages. It would be sort of cool to have covers stamped/engraved with some of the other words for harmonica. Some of them are pretty fun, from Mississippi Saxophone or Hobo Harp... here is a list from Pat Missin's site...
fidil fhrancach (Gaelic for "French fiddle") - Ireland moothie - Scotland gaita (also used to refer to bagpipes and various other instruments) - various Spanish/Portuguese-speaking countries fotzhobel (literally "mouth plane", also used to denote the panpipes) - various German-speaking countries muzicuta- Romania ruine-babines ("ruins the lips") - France Mississippi saxophone, Louisiana saxophone - various parts of the USA harpoon - various parts of the USA gob iron - various parts of the UK tin sandwich - widespread
Independently of this thread (the only harp key I don't have is F#, and I had no idea if it was higher than an F or lower than a G), I found this chart on the Hohner website yesterday - it's the same chart on both the English and the German versions of the site. www.hohner.de/fileadmin/documents/instruments/harmonicas/hohner-harmonicas-tuning-chart.pdf I was bemused by the F# harp, where they have the blow holes as F#4 Bb Db F#. It should read F#4 A# C# F# but I guess, since they have a Db harp, not a C# harp, they feared a harp player wouldn't know what a C# was (ditto for A#). The chart may be useful for a FAQ section, or not.
Of course in ET tuning, a C# might be a slightly different note from a Db, but you'd treat them as the same note for the purpose of music theory. ---------- Andrew. -----------------------------------------
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I like the blue third on any harp any key. If you get it spot on and can add some warble,tremolo? to it is a beautiful sound in the context of the blues. I can remember one gig where i held it for a complete 12 bar cycle just playing with it,dead on, to a shave above and below as the chords changed and straight or with a warble. I got laid that night.
That's curious - I just wanted to play something in the key of A in 12th position, and I discovered I don't have a harp in the key of E. I think I'd better tidy my place and do a stock-take! ---------- Andrew. -----------------------------------------
A long time ago -30 years-when looking for a Hohner Db I found one marked C#. I liked the novelty so I bought it over the ones labeled Db that were also in stock. They also had Beatle harmonicas. I wish I'd bought up all the Beatles harmonicas they had. A mint one would be worth quite a bit now-a-days. No matter. ---------- Reasonably priced Reed Replacement and tech support on Hand Made Series Hohner Diatonic Harmonicas.
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I like all the major keys and have a fondness for Bm on diatonic and Cm on chromatic but for the most part I tend to think of music as one big fat chromatic scale where certain keys, certain positions, and certain models ie, diatonic, chromatic- or even a tremolo harp, sound best to my ears on certain songs. ---------- Reasonably priced Reed Replacement and tech support on Hand Made Series Hohner Diatonic Harmonicas.
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Thankyou for that, Adam, that was excellent. I wonder if it's a guitar tuned down or a baritone guitar tuned up. I guess the former is more likely. ---------- Andrew. -----------------------------------------
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I used to like the notes my mum wrote in a hurry, when she didn’t put specific dates on, she’d just write like ‘david was away because he had a cold’ and I could sit on that for a couple days extra, at least 1 day. Those extra days were good days, I could head down the creek and set my lines, read my book, work on some chess problems. Except for that one time I sat on the jack-jumper nest and they got up my pants leg, I had 3 stings before I even realised what was happening. And I lost my watch and I also got caught out that week after I pushed the scam too far, and got caned plus detention for the rest of term. They were good notes though, I think I still came out ahead overall.
The jack jumper is a local stinging ant. It’s a problem for some people who have allergy to the venom (fatal) but so far I’m ok with them. I got stung a lot when I was young, been many years since.
I can’t post links right now but here is the URL for the Wikipedia entry
Horrible. Just the sort of thing I expect from your part of the world. Although in the UK we do now have a nasty thing to watch out for when tramping about, in the form of tics that carry Lyme disease. Otherwise, the worst of it is a wasp at a picnic.
Back to notes, Grey Owl may be joking with Do, but I have a friend who was on holiday in Turkey or Greece and he met some musicians with instruments he'd either never seen before, or I've forgotten part of the story. Like a lot of musicians, he was interested in how the instruments were tuned, so he asked, and sure enough they told him their instruments were tuned to "Do". But this agrees with something I said earlier about traditional musics not needing to be written in more than two or three keys (read modes).
(yes, I think technically Do can mean C, but we can discount that here) ---------- Andrew. -----------------------------------------
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